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Author Topic: Impossible to have perfect flight?  (Read 777 times)

Offline Robert Honaker

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Impossible to have perfect flight?
« on: February 04, 2010, 07:22:00 PM »
Is it possible that a bow may have a week limb or improper tiller so that it will never have perfect flight?

No matter where my nock point is set I get a severe 'kick" on the tail end of shaft. From 1/4  to 7/8 nock point.. Left/right is good. Bare shafted and and same result... hits about a foot low and if I lower NP it gets even worse.

What yall think?

Offline **DONOTDELETE**

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 07:33:00 PM »
have you tried a raised rest?

Offline Old York

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 07:37:00 PM »
I'd be hard-pressed to hit anything
with a 1/4" to 7/8" brace height.

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Offline Predator Man

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 07:43:00 PM »
I had a bow like that but it was a bow made by a local bowyer and I think the tiller was messed up or something.
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Offline Robert Honaker

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
I meant 1/4 to 7/8 Nock point.

Offline patvro

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
I like to use two nocks over and under the it seems to help for me. You still need the right arrow and tuning though .
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Offline Chris Shelton

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 07:50:00 PM »
do you shoot split fingers or three under?
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Offline CJC

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 07:51:00 PM »
is it possible that that it could be your release? or a form issue?

Offline widow sax

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2010, 07:54:00 PM »
Are you shooting three under if so the arrow can be sliding down the string on release I saw this happen first hand Lee at tradtec showed me a  high speed slowmotion film that showed it happening at tradtec one time. There is a thread on here of *********** that talks about that this guy wrapped serving below his arrow to stop it. You could try puting a nock point below arrow just to see if that helps.  Widow

Offline mater

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 07:56:00 PM »
It can be the bow. I made one once when learning, and it would shoot in the dirt until you got used to it. It was way out of tiller. There is more to tillering a bow than a couple measurements. Try weighting one end then the other and see if anything changes.

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2010, 07:58:00 PM »
and whats the arrow set up and bow stats
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Offline Bowmania

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2010, 07:58:00 PM »
Here's the problem.  When you have your NP set too low, the arrow hits the shelf and kicks up, making it look too high.  In fact you can't get a BS to shoot nock too low.

Use two nocking points one above and one below.  Start too high and when you move it more it just a 1/16th.

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Offline Robert Honaker

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2010, 08:01:00 PM »
Don't be mistaken, I know how to shoot and tune. I was just wondrin if a bow could be messed up in the tiller dept.
I have never had a bow act like this.

Offline Bill Carlsen

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2010, 08:08:00 PM »
I have shot some aweful bows over the years. I would venture to guess that "yes"  a bow can be unshootable/untuneable.
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Offline GREASEMAN

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2010, 08:10:00 PM »
Try talking to the Boyer who made it and see if he has any suggestions.Better yet,ask him if you can send it back to him to have it checked out.

Offline **DONOTDELETE**

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2010, 08:29:00 PM »
Can You post pix of the bow?
un-braced
braced
half drawn
full draw

Also when the bow is braced measure at the fades to the string, they should be even or top limb 1/8" longer/higher. post pix and info.

Offline daveycrockett

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2010, 08:51:00 PM »
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Originally posted by GREASEMAN:
Try talking to the Boyer who made it and see if he has any suggestions.Better yet,ask him if you can send it back to him to have it checked out.
Tried this with one I had doing the same thing one time, he told me to find it a good home.

Offline Old York

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2010, 11:27:00 PM »
With your bow arm straight out, pulling slowly
to full draw, does the bow 'want' to drift up or down?
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Offline George D. Stout

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2010, 11:45:00 PM »
You haven't listed your arrows, etc.  Hard for us to tell or suggest anything without some idea of where you are with arrow spine/length, etc.

Offline Jock Whisky

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Re: Impossible to have perfect flight?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2010, 01:19:00 AM »
Robert try raising your brace height. I had the same problem and an old archer told me to try it. It worked for me.

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