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Author Topic: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added  (Read 4156 times)

Offline vermonster13

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Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« on: February 17, 2010, 04:02:00 PM »
Now available for order in 62" and 58" Front or Belly Mount. A few minor changes were made to the limb pads and the tips have a little more curve in them than the prototype did. Fastest bow Arvid has made to date, quiet and smooth. Looks funky but shoots like a dream!

 
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 04:13:00 PM »
Looks wild with those curves!

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 04:14:00 PM »
that's awesome!  looks like a keeper!

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 04:14:00 PM »
My analytical side makes me wonder what is the driving force behind the speed? Do the extra curves cause a dual pivot causing a more efficient working "arm" or "lever"? I'm no engineer, does someone have a more accurate answer?

I like different and this definitely fits the bill!

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2010, 04:16:00 PM »
Yeah! That's the bow I saw pictured when it was still a prototype. All I could see really well was the lower limb and it made me think of one of my old Osage snakey Character bows.

Coool! In a very space age sorta way now that I can see the whole bow.
Thanks for showing it off to us.
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2010, 04:16:00 PM »
I'll have the force draw curve work up and efficiency work up in a few days or so. My guess is this bow is going to break the 90% mark.
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 04:17:00 PM »
Now that is one weird looking recurve.  :clapper:

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 04:24:00 PM »
Good to see Arvid is going ahead with that desgin.It was a dream to shoot.

Is he sending you a hunting weight testbow?
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2010, 04:26:00 PM »
This is the new one Rich. 48@30 on this riser, 53@30 on the back-mount. The riser didn't come out looking as black as it should because of the overcast and snow I guess.
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 04:33:00 PM »
Oh nice...I didn't even realize that was the new design riser.Can't wait to try 'er out. :thumbsup:
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 04:51:00 PM »
Really cool! Can't wait to here some reviews.

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 05:31:00 PM »
Put a couple of twists in that string and you have a  longbow.

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 05:43:00 PM »
Man, I love the looks of your bows, specially the sniper (which isn't on the site anymore???), but I'm not sure I could get used to that. But if it's smooth and fast, who cares?  :bigsmyl:

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2010, 05:45:00 PM »
Looks like a snake, just needs some skins  :)
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 05:48:00 PM »
The one-piece bows are being updated for the new exotic handles. They are still available for order.
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 05:53:00 PM »
That string is barley touching the limb.  I think an extra 1/2in or so of brace height would completely eliminate string slap, making the bow much quieter.  The loss of speed from 1/2in of brace height isn't much and would probably be well worth the sound reduction.

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 05:56:00 PM »
You would be wrong on the 1/2" of brace taking the string of the limb. Looks can be deceiving. The prototype could be braced to be a hybrid, this one has more curve at the end than you may think. It's actually very quiet also.
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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 05:57:00 PM »
To add to my post, it looks like you have yarn wrapped around the end of the string to reduce string slap.  I think you lose just as much speed if not more from that than you would from 1/2-1in extra brace height.

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2010, 05:59:00 PM »
Sorry, I posted at the same time as you did.  How much extra brace height would be needed to get the string off the limb?  I wonder what the difference in speed would be with the higher brace height vs lower and yarn on the neck of the string.

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Re: Introducing the Black Swan Wave FD Charts added
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 06:00:00 PM »
The yarn didn't really make much difference, but I put it on all my recurves and you don't know until it's on. The limbsavers I put on as cheap insurance on all my keeper bows.

The brace is already at 8.75" on this riser. To get the string off the limb you need to brace it around 11.5" on this riser. It's fine right where it is now. When I want to shoot a longbow, I have those too.
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