Originally posted by Earthdog: Not me,I've shot them on an off "but the cost finaly put me off,,,,for now.Funny thing about "never",,,I belong to a motorcycle club an we used to have a young member who would often state that he would "never" drive a car,,or any other @&%#4wheeled ect ect.Then he noticed he was being left out of a few things,,,an got a little pissed about it.When he finaly asked why,he was told that since he "can't" drive a car,he was of little use in an emergency situation,he couldn't drive the run truck which everybody is required to do now an then,and as a result a few of the boys felt he couldn't be relied on,or was just bucking a job nobody wanted to do.Eventualy he got the boot,an last time I saw him he was selling used cars."Never" is a very longtime.