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Author Topic: How big are your groups?  (Read 790 times)

Offline Gary Logsdon

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2010, 04:03:00 PM »
I pretty much shoot where I'm looking but avoid looking at anything much over fifteen yards if there's any pressure on the string:^)
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Offline ChuckC

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2010, 04:04:00 PM »
Jesse  lots of us have a different way of thinking about that.  I am thinking one arrow in the spot I wanted to put it is also a pretty good measure of accuracy.

One arrow shooting between trees while bending way over to get under the branches and leaves yet still get to the target, and hitting it where you were wanting to,  is a good measure of accuracy.

Three arrows or twelve arrows shows repeatability, but I typically only get to shoot one anyway.

Just another point of view.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2010, 04:44:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
How many times then, in a hunting situation, can you use your "form".

Me thinks you should change angles and stance each and every shot. Groups are good for field archery but not much use for bowhunters.
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Offline Jim now in Kentucky

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2010, 05:10:00 PM »
I haven't been to a lot of shoots, but I don't think many of those 2" group guys were there. At least I didn't see them.

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2010, 05:53:00 PM »
You might get what Biggie calls a "deflection", if you don't alter your form when needed.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2010, 06:59:00 PM »
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Whats form? I shoot lots of grond squirrels and most shots are at 20-40 even 50 . If you wait till you have that perfect 10-15 yard shot your never going to shoot at one. I should say. (I try to shoot lots of ground squirrels) Why shoot at six yards ? Good poll.
 
I shoot a 4 feet out to 35 yds for practice. just because i missed a turkey at about 6 feet.

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2010, 07:00:00 PM »
Well somtimes i get 3 or 4 in a group. But  i only shoot one deer out of the goup.    :biglaugh:

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2010, 07:21:00 PM »
Depends on how many arrows I shoot...lol I have more fun and less accuracy shooting out at 60 yds.

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2010, 08:53:00 PM »
I don't shoot groups and don't care. I just want 1 good arrow that is red from end to end, with a matching trail on the ground!

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2010, 09:06:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Zbearclaw:
The key, for a bowhunter, is to put the first arrow into the vitals every time.

Groups don't help that in my opinion when it comes to confidence in the woods.

Actually, it helps my confidence immensely. Yes, as a bowhunter it’s the first shot that counts. But if I can put the first arrow into the mark, followed by the second, third, fourth, and fifth, then I know that the first was skill instead of luck. There are a lot of times in bowhunting where I don’t mind relying on luck—whether or not an animal will show up, what trail it will use—but making a shot isn’t one of them. Shooting groups gives me the confidence I need; other people find different ways of getting there. Whatever works, do it.

Offline xtrema312

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2010, 09:06:00 PM »
The questions was groups size at given range, not how do you practice for hunting or what do you think of groups.  I agree the best hunting practice is one arrow shots at all different ranges and conditions, but that was not the nature of the post.  

He is looking to set some measure of accuracy that can be commonly used as a basis to gauge his progress.  So all the post about one arrow and all kinds of positions and distances are really not helping answer his question.

So for those with an aversion to shooting groups, how about listing what your average 5-6 shots tends to be for a group if you kept track of them as you shoot at those different ranges?  You don't have to shoot all your arrows at one time to figure out what your group would be if you kept track of where you arrow hits.
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Offline ChuckC

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2010, 11:51:00 PM »
Well then  I tend to shoot one hole groups.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2010, 12:26:00 AM »
I am a big fan of shooting groups in fact I panic if I dont shoot great groups out to 40yards . Whats great? depends on the shooter. I work on group shooting about 10 hours a week and shoot one arrow field rounds from hunting like positions 2-3 hrs a week, and shoot as many 3ds as I can
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2010, 12:56:00 AM »
Accuracy (distance from target a shot falls) and precision (how close shots are together with no respect to target) are two different measures.  I think a clear understanding of them is critical in this discussion.  How they relate to effectiveness is open for debate, personally They are peas in a pod  to me but I don't get worked up about groups.  Mostly I pay attention to them when limiting my range in the woods.  Do I practice to shoot groups, nope.  I just listen to what they tell me I can morally try on game a have deep respect for.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2010, 01:30:00 AM »
just as well i voted. it keeps the average from getting to high.  :saywhat:  

my hat is off to the one voter who can robinhood at 30 yards.  :notworthy:    :notworthy:
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2010, 02:30:00 AM »
At 35 yards my arrows are within 4 inches (left, right, above or under) from the centerkill
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2010, 02:51:00 AM »
Well at 30 yards, hmmm... i trying to get closer  :goldtooth:
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Offline GMMAT

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2010, 06:12:00 AM »
You talking about my INTERNET groups.....or my ACTUAL groups?

lol....

I'd say I'm BELOW average.

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2010, 06:26:00 AM »
My grouping is 2"-3" out to about 18 yards. After that, I tend to gain an inch or so with every couple yards. I shot 3 arrow groups as many of you others. I also find that my first arrow of the day at 30 yards or closer almost always hits real close to home.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2010, 07:32:00 AM »
You talking about my INTERNET groups.....or my ACTUAL groups?

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