OK, I just unpacked mine and fought with it a bit to get it together--everything is pretty stiff. I got it together (it's really pretty intuitive when you look at it.) When I sit down on it and turn there is no noise at all from the hub, but when I shift position as you would lean forward to shoot, there is a very noticeable noise from the various components rubbing against the u anchors, etc. (sort of a groan for lack of a better word). A deer would certainly hear this in a quiet woods. Is this normal? Does it go away after you get things broken in? I hear about some new clips that are supposed to make the set up quicker, but there were none with my new chair, so what gives with those? It is comfortable, but right now the jury is out on how much I am going to like this expensive chair. Helpful words of encouragement?? :confused: