Heavy inserts or heavy points?

[wapous]

Heavy inserts or heavy points? The points are cheaper. So why expensive brass heavy inserts?
Thanks

[Mooseandbuck44]

I'm sorry wapous, I don't have an answer to your question, but I am also curious about another aspect of what you asked instead of just the cost of inserts and points (I hope this is considered to be the same topic).  

Does using heavier inserts, like the screw-in type on the back of the insert, affect the spine differently versus just using heavier points?  Seems to me using the screw-ins you are adding weight further and further back from the tip.  

Thanks.

[JimB]

That depends which point you are talking about.Sometimes the heavy point isn't enough and heavy inserts are used in addition.Also,brass inserts are stronger than aluminum ones,if strength is an issue.

[Soilarch]

I assume everyone has their own reasons.

I use the inserts so I can still use 125gr. points and broadheads.  (the 150gr bh aren't too much of a difference either)

For me, it's cheaper to buy the inserts than to restock all of my broadheads and buy new points...besides, I have enough trouble keeping all the different point weights I have separated as it is.

[Bowferd]

Both. The insert especially if long enough stiffens and toughens the foreshaft where you will normally have breaks in the shaft.
Also increases front end wt which gives you higher FOC % and better penetration.
I normally shoot wood and bamboo.
I have had far less destruction to both by inserting added weight into the shaft at a depth of 2-3" before installing points.

[HATCHCHASER]

You are correct moose.

[Bill Kissner]

I buy the long brass inserts because I have trouble with getting heavy enough shafts for the heavy points. By using the 100 grain inserts, they have the same effect as shortening the shaft the amount it is longer than a standard insert. My arrows will not fly with 250 grain points but will fly great with 100 grain inserts and 150 grain points. Hope this makes sense.

[Ragnarok Forge]

It is half a dozen of one and six of another if you looking for a set weight up front.  They make the front of the shaft tougher, allow you to shoot lighter heads, etc...

[Michael Arnette]

I use them both.

[Earthdog]

Because I want to shoot the same Bear Razorheads I've shot for the last 40 years,,,on all my arrows.

OK ?

[SveinD]

I always reckoned it was because It's easier to match broadheads, fieldpoints and blunts at lower weights.. Never seen a 225gn fieldpoint..?

[LongStick64]

Why not both ?

[Rob DiStefano]

it's cheaper to use alum inserts and bulk up on the point and adapter weights.  just depends on how heavy ya wanna go.  

with a typical 125gr broadhead, and a 125gr steel adapter, and a 25gr alum insert, thats a hefty 275gr up front.  replace the alum adapter for 100gr brass and now the front end is loaded to 350 grains.  just depends on what broadhead weight yer using ...

[BigJim]

SveinD- They now make fieldpoints in just about everything up to 300g.
We stock them in 100,125,145,175,200,225,250, and 300! wow what a lot of bagging!!!

All those weights and a small variety of insert choices just increase ones options.

BigJim

[tawmio]

i agree with Soilarch iserts might be alittle more but one can buy standard broadheads and fieldpoints. I use 100g inserts with my MFX realtree arrows.

[Chris Shelton]

I use heavy inserts because there is a bigger variety of 100 grain broadheads!

[wapous]

Thank you to all. Good answer, as usual.
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[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Chris Shelton:
... there is a bigger variety of 100 grain broadheads!

um, nope, don't think so - the larger variety is 125gr.

with a glue on point, and a myriad of adapter weights from 30-125gr, there's a lotta tweakin' can be done with just an alum insert.

[KentuckyTJ]

Originally posted by wapous:
Heavy inserts or heavy points? The points are cheaper. So why expensive brass heavy inserts?
Thanks

I personally spend the extra on the brass inserts because my bows all all around 50 pounds and that way I can use a thinner profile 100 grain broadhead which I truly believe gives me better penetration from less drag. If I shot 60 lbs or more I wouldn't spend the extra money on the brass.

[jrchambers]

I kinda was wondering wich setup would be overall tougher, a 275 total with 100 brass and 175 bh or a 250 head with aluminum insert,  

for me to use my favorite bh in 175 i have to put in a aluminum adapter. but if i took out the brass i could use the same broadhead with a 100 grain steel adapter.