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Author Topic: Heavy inserts or heavy points?  (Read 496 times)

Offline EzArcher

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2010, 12:40:00 PM »
an advantage of the inserts is you can use smaller field points that are less likely to stay stuck in 3d targets
i have lost several points and inserts in 3d targets using 250 grain fieldpoints

i think if i use smaller heads and the brass inserts that would minimize the problem

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2010, 12:44:00 PM »
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Originally posted by EzArcher:
an advantage of the inserts is you can use smaller field points that are less likely to stay stuck in 3d targets
i have lost several points and inserts in 3d targets using 250 grain fieldpoints

i think if i use smaller heads and the brass inserts that would minimize the problem
Sounds like you may be using the wrong glue.
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2010, 01:24:00 PM »
"I kinda was wondering wich setup would be overall tougher, a 275 total with 100 brass and 175 bh or a 250 head with aluminum insert,"

JR,I'm told that an aluminum adapter is more likely to fail than an aluminum insert and that if you had to choose between the two,aluminum insert and steel adapter,is stronger.Kind of makes sense to me.

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2010, 02:04:00 PM »
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Originally posted by EzArcher:
an advantage of the inserts is you can use smaller field points that are less likely to stay stuck in 3d targets
i have lost several points and inserts in 3d targets using 250 grain fieldpoints

i think if i use smaller heads and the brass inserts that would minimize the problem
inserts and adapters should be glued in with slow set epoxy.
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2010, 06:11:00 PM »
I use 100gr brass inserts and 125gr points. Reasons: I have more options on broadheads, I can use an insert or adapter (both 100gr brass), judo points don't come in other weights, I can use my lifetime accumulated supply of broadheads that include razorheads, Magnus, Snuffers, Stingers, Zwickey, etc. (which seems to get larger much faster than it is ever depleted); and perhaps most important...my arrows fly great with them (100+125).
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2010, 06:18:00 PM »
I prefer to use the heavy heads. The way I see it, a heavier head (of a certain model) is gonna be bigger and more built up, making it more durable. Not always true, just my 2 cents...
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Offline Jason R. Wesbrock

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2010, 07:41:00 PM »
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... there is a bigger variety of 100 grain broadheads!
um, nope, don't think so - the larger variety is 125gr.

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If I'm not mistaken, Chris was refering to screw-in heads -- Muzzys, Thunderheads and such -- since that's what he uses. With that type of head, 100 grains is pretty much the standard anymore.

Offline Jason R. Wesbrock

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2010, 07:42:00 PM »
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I prefer to use the heavy heads. The way I see it, a heavier head (of a certain model) is gonna be bigger and more built up, making it more durable. Not always true, just my 2 cents...
That's my take on it as well. I'd rather have the extra material in the head than just dead weight in the shaft.

Offline Michael Golden

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2010, 08:04:00 PM »
I use then both because I don't like that huge field point hanging out the front of my arrow.....

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2010, 09:10:00 AM »
I use both. Problem solved.    :)
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 09:23:00 AM »
I have found that the heavy points tune differently than a brass insert and point.  If I use a 250 grain head then,I need a stiffer spine than if I use a 100 grain insert and a 150 grain head.  This is really noticeable on mfx and axis shafts because the insert is farther back.  It is a leverage thing.  Shoot what flys the best.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2010, 10:46:00 AM »
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Originally posted by HATCHCHASER:
I have found that the heavy points tune differently than a brass insert and point.  If I use a 250 grain head then,I need a stiffer spine than if I use a 100 grain insert and a 150 grain head.  This is really noticeable on mfx and axis shafts because the insert is farther back.  It is a leverage thing.  Shoot what flys the best.   :thumbsup:  
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2010, 11:17:00 AM »
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Heavy inserts or heavy points? The points are cheaper. So why expensive brass heavy inserts?
Thanks
Because there are a wider choice of both broadheads and other points in lighter weights.
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2010, 12:14:00 PM »
i like to keep my big bd deltas up front and add weight by the insert. tackle bow was starting to overflow with all the different field points

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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 02:11:00 PM »
So many "Options" ........ Use what best fits Your needs.......
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Re: Heavy inserts or heavy points?
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 03:05:00 PM »
just tried my setup two ways 100 grain brass with a 175 field point,  and a aluminum 25grain insert with a 250 broadhead, both shot the same.

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