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DEERDOG
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wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 05:27:00 PM »
After many years shooting EFOC carbons I have found a new friendship with woodies. I really like Ash arrows and I dont like the lightness of cedar. Please help me pick an arrow in between these two extremes.
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 05:30:00 PM »
Douglas Fir?
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 05:36:00 PM »
I got some Surewood shafts from Braveheart archery that are 440-450 grns and 450-460 grains raw shaft. I will have around 600+ finished arrow when they're finished. They're Douglas fir.
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celticknot
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 05:39:00 PM »
laminated birch, chundoo(lodge pole pine), hex shafts spruce,ramin, Thats all of the mid weights I can think of.
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doctari
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 05:51:00 PM »
I like ash for hunting, best weight for wood arrows. IMO Tried hickory too, but the humid weather here just warps them like bananas. I have hundreds of cedar and only target practice with them. I also like Douglas fir. Laminated birch are pretty stout but very hard to straighten. Still have not tried sitka spruce, would like to though. I love shooting wood arrows and after much money buying bulk shafts and experimenting with most, my choice is Ash. .
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Brock
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 06:02:00 PM »
I switched from cedar years ago... I tried ash and loved it but too heavy for every day use for me.
I tried chundoo, sitka spruce, and douglas fir. Chundoo is good....as is sitka spruce. I think sitka spruce has all the benefits of cedar without any of the negatives (easy breakage, too light).
I prefer Douglas Fir....used to get all of mine from Alleghany Mtn Arrow Woods.
Doug Fir and Sitka Spruce are my two favorite woods for arrows....lots of people sell them so give them a try. I think you will like them.
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Bowferd
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 06:06:00 PM »
In woodies I prefer yellow poplar, sitka spruce, and douglas fir.
But consider this to be an opinion and in no way advice.
I haven't tried them all and experience is limited.
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Fletcher
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 09:20:00 PM »
If cedar is too light for you, sitka spruce will be too. Fir can vary a lot in weight so you can get some pretty heavy shafts for the spine weight. IMO fir is the best shooting of the arrow woods, very snappy and quick to recover. Another way to get arrow weight up is with point weight. You will have to go up in spine along with it, but the higher FOC really shoots nice. Choices and decisions; ain't it great!
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 09, 2010, 09:29:00 PM »
I am Still a
Dyed-In-The-Wool
Ramin Shooter!! They are Tough,Easy to Straighten, and
Cheap to Replace!!
IMHO of Course.
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 09:20:00 AM »
Birch and it doesnt have to be laminated but I bet laminated shafts are great, also poplar.
Ash is my go to heavey tough arrow wood also.
Lately I have been experimenting with footed arrows using poplar and several different hard woods with outstanding result.
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Lost Arra
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 10:45:00 AM »
Is the move from cedar because everyone wants heavier shafts or problems finding good cedar shafts?
Over the years I would assume cedar has killed lots of animals.
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Onehair
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 11:44:00 AM »
Sitka and Douglas fir. You can load up the front of woodies as well.
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fishnbum
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 12:21:00 PM »
One way to add weight to any wood shaft is to soak them for a week or three in a oil based wood stain.
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LPN
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 05:03:00 PM »
Sitka Spruce is tougher but at the same weight as Cedar,,ash is tough as nails and alot heavier,I've recently tried some Fir, sort of a mid-heavy I guess, never tried lam Birch.
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mcgroundstalker
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 05:41:00 PM »
Wood arrows are just soooo cool! :D
... mike ...
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tkytrac
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 11:08:00 PM »
Does anyone make compressed cedar anymore? The few that I've been able to run across have always been my favorites. Very special arrows.
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 10, 2010, 11:21:00 PM »
I've tried ceder, ash, lam birch and fir.The spruce were the best light shafts, the ash best heavy shafts but the fir are the best shooting and make up to good hunting weights for 45# to 60# bows.I'll be hunting with fir this year. Bob
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Fletcher
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 11, 2010, 01:05:00 AM »
Sorry trac, no more compressed cedar that I know of. I'm afraid the Forgewoods are a thing of the past and Kerry Gesink sold his business a few years back, but I haven't seen the buyers produce the compressed shafts.
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eric-thor
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 11, 2010, 01:38:00 AM »
ive shot cedars not anymore i loved sitca allaginni dont make em anymore
so now i shoot dugfir but im looking into more foc so im thinkin about some footed taperd shafts from allaghini. not cheep but i think they will be worth it. oh ya i have some laminated birch the r heavy abd straiten great if you worm them in the oven at like 150deg. befor you make em perrrfect.
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Re: wood arrow compromise??
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May 11, 2010, 11:13:00 AM »
Love my 11/32" Acme ramins from the early '90s. Glad I bought a bunch!
I've tried alot of wood over the years, and come to favor the pine family for the best charaters needed in wood shafts. Weight, straightness, durability, and ease to work.
But for true, natural material, and tapered to boot, God created....Cane!
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