Traditional Only Carbons - thoughts??

[Rando]

Looking to re-new my arrow stock for the upcoming summer shoots & hunting season. I've been shooting woodies and Legacy 2020's forever but contemplating the move to carbon for some time now...
3Rivers has a good (I think) price on the Trad. Only shafts which are same diameter as my 2020's and look like a good shaft. Thinking this might be a good time to try a good carbon.
I would love some thoughts on what'd work best for me in this shaft and any feedback you guys & gals have with these carbons.
I'm shooting several RD longbows w/Fastflight between 59 - 63lbs @ my draw length 28". I've come to like a tip weight of 175 grains (broadhead & field point) and my arrows are currently cut to 28 1/2" though I know this can change when tuning a carbon. Whaddya think'd be a good shaft for me (I do intend on bareshafting)?
Appreciate any info!!

[hawk4570]

I don't think bareshafting always with carbon. Carbon express makes a pretty good shaft.

[Oregon Okie]

I don't have 'em yet but I took 3R up on that price.
I got the 300 spine because I have a monkey arm draw. I would get Stu's spine calculator on it and see which spine works best on there and then bare shaft after. It'll get you so close you'll at least have the right shaft to start with.

[Mike Bolin]

I would guess that a .400 would work well with your set up. I am shooting the 400 from a 53#@28" Timberhawk recurve with a 100 gr. brass adapter and a 200 gr. point. I would leave the shaft a bit long and work your way down. I shot this same arrow from a 59# Widow LAG longbow and they flew really well. The amount of center shot of your bow(s) will make a difference as will your release, but a .400 should be right in the ballpark. Good Luck! Mike

[ranger42]

I have the .500's and they work great for my 45-50# bows. I use the 100 gr. brass inserts and they seem nearly indestructable. Good looking shaft as well, and made by Easton!

[Wannabe1]

JMHO but, Arrow Dynamics is good way to start with carbons. I shoot the same Trad Lite out of all my bows, weights between 45# & 53#, and have never had to bareshaft a one. Just change the point weight with the poundage.  

[Joshua Lee]

Wannabe, I'm gonna tell rourke to find you a hat to eat.    just teasing
Josh

[Rando]

Thanks (so far) all...
I looked at the 3Rivers spine chart and it showed I should use the 340's, this seemed a bit too stiff to me - I think the 400's sound better...
Okie - what is / where is Stu's spine calculator?
thanks,
Rando

[Wannabe1]

     Ya but, I'll be using Surewoods this hunting season as soon as I can get a 1/2 doz. made up. The ones I have made up now are for a heavier longbow.

[Chris Shelton]

I have the beeman ICS bowhunter shafts in 400 spine for my 55# recurve, they are amazing, and the traditional only shafts are beeman ICS shafts with wood grain finish on them, so they are heavier, which I would actually prefer.  Beeman makes a great shaft, they are a subcompany of easton so ya know they gotta be good:)

[KentuckyTJ]

I love them, I've used most the major brand carbons and the Trad Only's are my favorite. Very consistant from lot to lot, the nocks are perfect in tightness for me (on string and in shaft). The inside of them isn't too slick to hold inserts with just hot melt. The wood grain on the outside never gives me any glueing/taping fletch issues. Wonderful shafts.

I think the .400's will do you well also.

[Oregon Okie]

Search for Stu's spine calculator on here (pow wow). It is a Excel spreadsheet that you will lose hours of your life playing with. You put in bow specs and arrow type and get the weight / length etc all matched up and you are pretty much good to go ... as some say on here, your mileage may vary but it's pretty dag gone close for me.

[Todweelz]

Bought a half dozen of the 400's, really nice arrows, when I wear out,lose and break the rest of my Vapor Carbonwoods, I will be buying these shafts. Good looking finish, consistent, and pretty tuff, best of all American made, haven't tried the beemans yet but have heard good things as well, and there made here.

[Zach Mikita]

I ran your numbers and a 400 spined arrow at 29.5" with a 175 gn head in theory would be the exact same as your current arrows (now the calculator is never exact, but a good tool to get you in a ballpark to begin bareshafting)....they are a great shaft and yes 3rivers has a pretty good deal on them.

[Rando]

Always impressed with the knowledge and responses on this site!! Wish I had more time to visit it more frequently...
Good info - thanks all.

[DeerSpotter]

I have the .600  T O , yet to set them up.

but I like them ,looks like they will work out great.


Carl

[BowHuntingFool]

I really like the durability of the Heritage shafts and feel they are a tougher shaft than the TO's, but since they're  made in Korea, I'm switching over to the TO's from 3R because they are made in the USA! Every little bit helps!

[ripforce56]

I  agree with you I am shooting Heritage 150s and really like them but I want to switch to a USA made carbon arrow shaft! I know it is a small thing but if I have a choice I want to buy USA made! Gonna check out The Trad shafts from 3 Rivers too!

[Flying Dutchman]

Her'ya go!  http://heilakka.com/stumiller/

[Zbone]

Todweelz - I have some Vapor Carbonwood 3000s, you happen to know what Traditionals are the same or close in spine?

Thanx