The Mountaineer and Poineer are more of a Hill style type longbow.They were discontiuned years ago but now that Damon Howatt has seperated alittle from Martin they have bought back some of their older models on a limited basis.They not listed on their website but sell a few through that **** store.The Mountaineer model is ML-14 with a zebrawood handle and lams under clear glass.The Poineer is a ML-10 with a bubinga handle and maple limbs with brown or black glass and both were 68" long.