Are U a Tradbowhunter or Tradarcher?

[joebuck]

Buddy of mine( been huntin with Trad equip for 3 years) just got back from a large Traditional shoot he has been excited about going to for his first time and came back with disappointment. I asked him why? He said he was saddened to see so many razzle dazzle target recurves set ups at the top classes. He said 2 guys in his group were shooting 39#......long story short he said he would not go back.. He wanted to be around Traditional Bowhunters not guys shooting target setups...........I said .."Congratuations...you could be classified a Traditional Bowhunter".......i hung up and scratched that shoot off my to do list next year...anyone else of the same mind set as me " Bring what you hunt with ?"

[TooManyHobbies]

I agree. The only reason I kill paper is to hope to kill a deer, moose, squirrel, etc. Not to kill more paper. To each their own though. Some like to shoot, but not hunt.

[Keith Zimmerman]

That's situation is the same when you go to a Black Powder shoot.  My buddies and I shoot out of our bags.  A lot of "Box Shooters" carry all there stuff in tackle boxes and shoot out of them.  Doesn't seem fair when you are loading patch and ball without a hammer to pound it down.

As long as it is allowed their is nothing you can do.

[robtattoo]

Why not enjoy both seperately? Shooting for scores with a light poundage bow is just as much fun as hunting with a heavier bow (OK not AS much fun, but it's fun, none the less!)

Why on earth would he be 'saddened' to see target recurves? Why is that any less 'trad' than any other recurve? Many folks hunt with 39# does he have a problem with that too???

Just because some of those 'Top Shots' may not be hunters doesn't mean they don't belong at Traditonal shoots.

I think it's a little sad that his opinion of the shoot was spoiled just because of the equipment other folks were using. Who the hell cares what ayone else is doing?

Maybe your bud needs to be a little more open minded Joey.

[Mudd]

Both! But I never shoot targets for a score.

God bless,Mudd

[Chris Shelton]

yea I hear that, alot of the wheelie guys hunt with their target set ups????  I am talking scopes 3 foot stablizers, the whole 9.  I thought about getting my uncle(machinist) to make me an aluminum riser, but I would have it exactly the same as my wood riser, the only reason I was going to do that was to not mess up my wooden one on the 3d course, that and I thought it would look sweet, lol.  But either way that wouldnt change my set up that much . . .

[Gil Verwey]

I am a Traditional Bowhunter and go to 3D shoots to have fun and practice. I don't keep score so I don't care what anybody else uses. I go to shoots that are both compound and trad in the same shoot. They just use different shot distances on the targets for trad shooters.  

If I were asked which one I am I would have to say both, since if they outlawed bowhunting I would keep on shooting my bow and enjoy every minute of it.

[Tom]

For those who shoot and the score matters it is a different game from why I shoot at 3d's. I like practice for hunting season and to meet others who shoot trad equipment. I seldom turn in score cards but keep it just to look for improvement for my own sake.
 Fur/hair is still what matters to me. One can't expect everyone to shoot the same equipment, otherwise we would be nose lifters like some other groups. Live and enjoy for its own sake.

[rastaman]

Those guys wanted to "win" the shoot.  Most of my buddies go to just shoot (the targets and the breeze)!

[HUNT 24/7]

I intend to be a trad hunter as soon as I pass my bow hunter ed course in Aughust, for now, I'm a paper puncher & foam stabber.

[Raging Water]

Both.

3 D is fun. Keeps you going when out of Hunting Season.

My wife will shoot 3 D, she does not hunt.

I am not a fan of elaborate Trad Bow set ups for 3 D, but to each his own.

[VTer]

I go to trad 3-D shoots to hang with my buddies and practice for hunting season. I don't care what other people are shooting as long as they don't slow the courses down.

[ren sarns]

I am a bowhunter 1st, but I have a blast at 3D.  Its even better when you can get a larger group of trad shooters out there together.  All the other wheelie shooters wondering why we are laughing, bsing and having a great time while they are too serious.  Its even more fun at a Trad only event!  I shot my whisperstik voodoo longbow down at Redding,  I was the only trad shooter in my group of 30+.  It was great the respect that the wheelie shooters had for trad.  So don't put down target shooting, give it a try it can only make you a better hunter,  by the way that is also the same bow I elk and deer hunt with.

[Bonecracker]

I want to add my thoughts to this thread as I am a Traditional Bow Hunter and only a BowHunter! I went to the Howard Hill shoot this weekend to shoot my bow and to help prepare myself for BearQuest4 trip which is coming up soon.  I leave on the 6/18 for New York and then the long drive up to camp.

Now I have all kinds of wood longbows and recurves but I chose to take my ole' DAS Master Hunter with camo long Win/Win limbs. It is just a fun bow to shoot off the shelf and it pulls around 55/57lbs at my 29 1/2 draw and is as smooth as butter.  Some of the darnest rude comments I had directed at me from those self-bow guys was just un-called for as they did not know me from a hill of beans!! Yes I was good and kept my mouth shut but these type comments are not needed in Tradional Archery!

As it turned out I made the top 30 in the Recurve division and I did not compete for the money! I was not there for a score but was there for practice and I shot well! Thanks for a great shoot!

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[Killdeer]

3D is great hunting practice. It is great try-out-the-new-bow-arras-tab-whatever practice.It is great target practice. Some shoots have competition courses, and some don't. You can choose to compete, practice, play with your 5# mouse bow or whatever. Most courses I shoot are non-competitive. There are a couple where I do keep score. I shoot whatever I want. This year, maybe the '63 Polar and my new Chimera. Last year it was the Morrison Cheyenne and a Leon Stewart. Why should this bother anybody else? I am out there to have fun and see if I can win a little doo-hickey to hang with my archery stuff. Doesn't mean I am going to get all sour about what somebody else brought to the shoot, and frankly, I don't care how long it takes them to make a shot.

Shoot it all however you like, as long as you are having fun and not hurting anybody. We are all archers pursuing our joy, however we interpret that joy. We should be happy, not making faces at the guy who doesn't match our self-image.

Killdeer

[stevemfwills]

there is a tread on the shooters forum about 3d scores..ill say the same here too.there is a difference between a bowhunter and a target archer...i shoot 3d every weekend and im always up in the top 1 or 2 guys and that doesnt mean diddly to me anymore.i used to shoot open and what a joke forgot i was spposed to have fun.i am a bow hunter and i shoot so i can be a better predator...i know target archers who eat tags cause they can get there form and release just right..i love the way barry wensel explains it in spirit of the bow..cant explain it any better

[wapiti792]

Well said Killy  

[Fletcher]

An archer doesn't need to be a bowhunter, but a bowhunter needs to be an archer.

The guys shooting target type equip are there to do well shooting at targets; that is their thing.  Shooting well is just as important for a bowhunter, maybe more so, than for a target shooter.  Like most of us, if I keep score it is for myself, but I learn a lot by shooting with target shooters.

Hill was a target shooter as well as a hunter.  When he shot on the target line, he used the equip he shot the best.

[ishoot4thrills]

I'm with Killy! She said just what I was thinking, so I won't say it all over again! I love it all!

Just for the record though, I shoot 3D with the exact same equipment that I hunt with, including a bow quiver full of arrows. Of course, I don't shoot 3D with broadheads! But I do have them on my arrows in my bow quiver. I keep my 3D arrows in a side quiver at 3D shoots. My 3D arrows match my hunting arrows exactly, except for the broadheads and I also have wraps on my hunting arrows. I have an absolute great time at 3D shoots when I'm shooting with trad shooters/hunters.

[eric-thor]

ok i have two cents in my pocket to through down ...

 this is like one of those situations where you see some guy slinging arrows at 15yrd target and defending himself as a true trad bowhunter!!! well i think thats crap !!! we r a part of the greatest sport in the world and there is more bs opinions / excuses for poor shooting . i am a long bow archer : who loves to hunt and hunt well and shoot accurately at the game i am blessed to hunt and sometimes harvest.

its a darn shame to see and hear soooo many people defend ignorance and lazyness as trad. im sure our ansestors of all cultures practiced and shared thier accomplishments and skill that they worked to discover, with others in the camp/tribe/comunity.   they all had thier own skill and limitations as do we but i garentee they tried to be the best hunters they could be .weather archery,spear,slingshot or knife,ect......

the excuse to scratch off any shoot that you have access to and time to shoot;because of what others shoot is a true example of ones archery/hunting fortitude or should i say lack there of .

none of us should be attending a shoot to win but to practice our art and compete only against ourselves and our own limitations weather perminant or temporary . and strive to advance our skill and understanding of this great sport we claim to be a part of.

to finish this soapbox rant : i dont care what the other guy is shooting i am not shooting against them .im just shooting the same target they are .to the best of my ability.

sorry for the rant this is a sore subject for me .