Are U a Tradbowhunter or Tradarcher?

[Gatekeeper]

Originally posted by joebuck:
so here's my question...seriously .......how many of ya'll that posted actually killed a deer last year with a trad. bow ???

1 coyote / 56” Centaur 55# @ 29” with a 650 grain arrow
 


2 deer / 54” Shrew 55# @ 29” with a 650 grain arrow
 

 

1 rabbit / 60” Whip 55# @ 29” with a 650 grain arrow

 

1 pig a little over a week ago.    56” Pronghorn 55# @29” with a 650 grain arrow

 

[wapiti792]

See now you're just braggin' Gatekeeper  

[Dawn Patrol]

Earthdog; Joey does not need me to defend him but I nust tell you he is one of the nicest,funniest guy I have ever known.
I had the please of shooting a 3-D contest with him over 20 years ago and My brother and I  laughed the entire day.
 Another thing you should know, he LOVES to stir the pot and watch folks get fired up.
If more people were like him I'd have more hunting buddys.

[reddogge]

I shoot 3-D with plumber and his son on occaision so my philosophy agrees with his.  Good fun, no score, plenty of BS about hunting.

Don't really care what others shoot as long as they don't hold me up.  Don't care what the score is either.

I DON'T carry broadheads during these shoots as they are potentially lethal and as Murphy's Law dictates, anything can happen at anytime.

[buckeye_hunter]

Most of the guys use their hunting set-ups to shoot 3D around here from what I have seen. I have only run into a few target archers at the shoots, but I'm OK with target recurves.

What I DID NOT care for was the superior attitude and rudeness some shooters displayed. Heck, one guy drove us all nuts. He HAD to "one up" everybody. No matter what a person said he  always had a bigger story to tell.

Long and short....lets be glad for the people that are shooting and being polite while having a good time regardless of what they shoot.

All that being said, I do shoot my 50lb set up for hunting and target. It gives a more realistic feel for me.

Just to stir the pot a bit....Last year I hunted with a recurve, muzzleloader, shotgun and took a few shots with a slingshot. I got ya'all beat, cuz I belong to the most groups!  

[Cyclic-Rivers]

Can't we all just get along?

"United we stand divided we fall!" I give praise to a hunter who kills a big buck with a super duty Rifle just as quick as I do a hunter with a bow. It is this separtist attitude that is the cause of many different religions. It creates a rift among people with common beleifs and can turn a good day ugly.

I guess it is Human nature to have an elitist attitude and then try to get people to be on "our side".  Tell you the truth, it's not as much fun!!!!

I'll shoot with Billy bob with a string tied to a stick as quickly as I will shoot with Mr. President with a top of the line gazillion $ bow that is certaily the best of the best due to it's price.  

Fact of the matter is, I like to shoot my bow and surround myself with good company.

To answer your question, Both.

[Raging Water]

JoeBuck quoted Eric-Thor:Eric-Thor wrote "none of us should be attending a shoot to win".

JoeBuck: That’s the most un-american thing I have ever read on this board........

First ---- JoeBuck – the A in American is CAPITALIZED!

Second ----- Joe Buck --- You took Eric’s comment out of context.

Here is his whole comment

Eric-Thor: “None of us should be attending a shoot to win but to practice our art and compete only against ourselves and our own limitations whether permanent or temporary and strive to advance our skill and understanding of this great sport we claim to be a part of”

My question: What is un-American about “competing, only against ourselves…to strive to advance our skill and understanding”?

The pursuit of personal perfection is not un-American. Beating another individual, in a 3 D shoot, in my opinion is trivial. Eric-Thor’s drive to improve himself is American. His struggle to be a bow hunter, which if needed, would put meat on the table; is AMERICAN.

The 3 D shoot is just a means to an end. As some of you know, I teach Martial Arts in Texas. I don’t do sport fighting. I don’t compete in sport Brazilian Jujitsu. Why? They won’t let me poke an eye out, rip off testicles, or tear out a throat. “Out wrestling” the other guy is not important to me. What is important is my ability to keep bad guys from hurting my family or yours. Or teaching Women and Children to get out of a bad guy’s grasp.

To me; a 3 D shoot is an opportunity to PRACTICE and to have FUN, not to compete. If, and I never have gotten close, win a 3 D shoot? Okay, cool.

But, that is not my goal.

BTW, 3 cups of Coffee and five hours sleep = Rant

[Shakes.602]

YES!!  Ones Just Better Than The Other Sometimes!!      

[joebuck]

Cyclic...based on your comments...Isn't Excluding compounds at a Traditional Shoots be "Elitist attitude" also?.....

What BIG Shoots out there are "bring what you hunt with"?

[buckeye_hunter]

I like that idea. Bring what you hunt with to shoot...seriously..it would be fun.

But...what if someone went Dukes of Hazzard and had explosive broadheads? Think they should shoot last?    

      It'spossible I need professional help...not sure though.

[joebuck]

Raging Waters....Some of us do attend 3-D shoots to win.....some of us charged the beach at Normandy..........I practice almost everyday in my backyard, stump shoot alot in the woods.....I go to shoots to win, to compete. Thats why most are called Tournaments...Most recognize the skill of the competitors in some form or fashion.... Eric says i should not go to shoots to win..Why can't I? Furthermore if the only practice a guy gets is at a 3-d tournament....i would be skeptic of their game shot ability in crunch time....2 much 3-d can ruin a good game shot......

[kbetts]

Never even seen a real 3-D course.  Seems like golfing without the cart girl. Does look like fun though.

[kbetts]

I second Joebucks' last comment.  I personally cannot shoot lots and lots of perfect shots one right after the other. I can, however, shoot one good one 98% of the time from wherever I'm standing (within reason).
That being said, I am very competetive.  My competition are my compound carrying buddies.  If I out harvest them on a consistant basis, I win.

[Northwest_Bowhunter]

I can understand being "saddened" by seeing "new fangled" shooting rigs.  Every one has their own vision of what traditional is, and if your friend will deny himself the chance to shoot at someone else foam animals because he either doesn't like the sight or the scores of those rigs, more power to him.  In the end we all have to find what makes this sport/activity fun for us.

If he didn't have fun, he is right to not go again.

[IndianaBowman]

I'm a bowhunter! I shoot targets for practice. 3-D is fun practice.

[Raging Water]

Joe Buck,

I agree, you can go to 3 D shoots and win. Good for you. But going to a 3 D shoot with the intention of "Competing Against Yourself" as Eric said, is not un-American.

[Raging Water]

Joe Buck,

BTW, I think your post was originally about "Bring what you hunt with" and not the good, the bad, and the ugly of a 3 D shoot.

I think your original point, is excellent!

"Bring what you hunt with" to a 3 D shoot is a good message.

[hawk4570]

I use the same bow for booth the only thing I really have a problem with is metal risers on trad bows.

[BowHuntingFool]

I love going to 3D shoots, weekly leagues or anything archery related! I go and shoot the courses to shoot good, if I win or whatever, all the better, that means I shot good. I don't go to a shoot to not shoot good! If you put the arrow in the vitals, not the x-ring, I'm saying vitals, your going to have a excellent score no matter what, that's what I strive for, kill shots! I shoot for kill shots every shot, it just so happens that you get more points than a body shot or miss! Lol! I love the beer drinkin and smack talking with good friends and family!  I use the same bow for everything and have killed deer every year I've hunted with my longbow!

I enjoy this to much to worry what the next guy shoots, hunts with or what he says about how I do things! There are negative folks in all walks of life, just got know BS when you hear it!

[lpcjon2]

You cant eat paper!