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Author Topic: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?  (Read 2164 times)

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Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« on: June 29, 2010, 08:35:00 PM »
What is bowhunters parradox? We discuss.  :dunno:
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 08:46:00 PM »
I am not sure what you are asking for here. The archers paradox is basic. It will happen iif the spine fits your bow the paradox is even. If the spine is to stiff or to week then it will push away from the bow or bend around it.

It is arrow flight is not an effect on it.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 08:58:00 PM »
Zeno\\'s Paradox of the Arrow  

i think this answers your question(s) perfectly (tongue in cheek of course)   :saywhat:
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 09:43:00 AM »
Maybe so but doesn't the bowhunters parradox affect wheather or not the arrow hits the target straight, or at a weird angle?
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 10:09:00 AM »
The paradox effects the arrow. Your tunning affects how the arrow strikes the target.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 10:13:00 AM »
I think you mean the Archer's Pradox.

Overcoming, or rather, matching the deflection of the arrow to the amount of Paradox exerted upon it is paramount to good arrow flight. If you have too much flex in the shaft, the Paradox is magnified & creates poor arrow flight, possibly even breaking the arrow. Too little flex & the arrow cannot flex enough to compensate for the uneven accelleration of the rear of the arrow trying to overtake the front, caused by the string deflection coming off your fingers, also creating poor arrow flight.

In essence, the Archer's Paradox is EVERYTHING to do with arrow flight.
You may want to try doing a few searches on You Tube. There are some spectacular super slow-mo videos that show exactly what happens whenyou drop the string.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 10:44:00 AM »
I have seen a few of those videos and thank for correcting me on that. I finished Ed Ashbys study and it looked like he had really found a good way for best penetration. 12 years of combined work is a long time. I finished tuning my bow not to long ago. its an acs adcock 64'' longbow. it took me a long time to figure out what was wrong, figured id see what this whole parradox thing was about.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 11:03:00 AM »
Just for clarification, what an arrow shaft does upon release is "oscillate" or "flex."

"Archer's Paradox"  refers to the question as to why an arrow would hit a target when, from all appearances when placed on the bow, it should strike to one side or the other.

Arrows don't "paradox" nor are they "in paradox."

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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 11:17:00 AM »
Archers parradox decides what angle the arrow hits the desired target. Is that correct? Because that is what i have found in tuning my bow unless the parradox wasnt the problem
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2010, 11:26:00 AM »
in tuning your bows you have found knowingly or not that the arrow spine when not harmonicly matched to your bow and you causes the arrow to hit at a different angle. As stated before Paradox is the question. It is in refferance to the flexing of the arrow in flight. The spine of your arrow when matched to your bow will creat a perfect ocilatioin that will strike the target true.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 11:29:00 AM »
Yes i have found that. Right now my bow works good with a little bit of a weaker spine
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 03:07:00 PM »
This poll is gunna be intrestin cause of the conflicting advice. oh well i will be here just in case anyone needs me
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 03:33:00 PM »
More arrow flight info  

And here is some more info that isn't "tongue in cheek".
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 03:35:00 PM »
Turkeys Fear Me has the correct definition of Archer's paradox and related terms.  I'm surprised by the amount of misinformation/lack of understanding on this topic.   :)

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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2010, 03:37:00 PM »
I don't think that this topic is talked about very much. Actually most of the bow hunters i know dont know what it is
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2010, 03:38:00 PM »
thx for the info rastaman. what kinda bow you shoot
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2010, 03:41:00 PM »
Here is the Wiki explanation of Archer's Paradox.

Click the link below
 
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2010, 03:41:00 PM »
I'm a bit confused here also.   :confused:  

The paradox is extremely important when clearing the riser of the bow. If an incorrect spine is used, then there will be flight issues. An arrow must be spined correctly to oscillate at just the right frequency to "bend around" the bow.

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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2010, 03:43:00 PM »
doesnt the parradox have to do with the way the arrow hits also? and norseman u cant click on your link for whatever reason
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2010, 03:44:00 PM »
Fixed the link...sorry.

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