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Author Topic: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?  (Read 2165 times)

Offline KentuckyTJ

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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2010, 01:28:00 PM »
Yeah Snag, I never even realized I did that until I saw the photos. I did know however I was a terrible shot and after this I knew one of the reasons.

I have some more photos at home that the camera caught the arrow wrapping around my riser that are really cool looking. That was a 500 spined GT 3555 arrow shaft.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2010, 01:32:00 PM »
The other part of archer's paradox, which you can see if you look closely at TJ's excellent picture, is that the bow hand moves slightly to the right when the arrow is shot (for a RH shooter), from the initial pressure of the arrow against the strike-plate.  This is another reason the arrow flies toward the target even though it is pointed to the left of the target at full draw.

This effect is noticed when shooting an arrow from a shooting machine that doesn't allow the bow hand to move to the right, which causes the arrows to impact to the left.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2010, 02:52:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Orion:

BobCo:  Don't know what you mean in your first sentence, but the rest of what you say is correct.

You mean the part of me being confused...???  :D  

Below is a good illustration:

 

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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2010, 03:02:00 PM »
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2010, 03:03:00 PM »
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that string! [/i]                            :rolleyes:              
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2010, 04:39:00 PM »
BobCo
Being an NAA Level 2 instructor have you ever seen Werner Beiter's video The Way to the Center? There is a mis-conception that the arrow has one node or bend in it as the arrow moves around the arrow shelf on the bow. The Beiter video takes advantage of newer high speed video equipment that shows that the arrow has several nodes in it all the way to the target (an arrow looks like a snake as it progresses all the way to the target). The arrow never becomes straight. The first time I saw the video I was shocked! The other thing to take note of, if you get to see the video is how much the handle section of the bow flexes (both recurves and compounds). The Beiter web site is an interesting place to look around. Beiter caters to Olympic program shooting.
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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2010, 05:13:00 PM »
Bobco:  I was referring to your second sentence. "The paradox is extremely important when clearing the riser of the bow."

The illustration you provide shows that the arrow bends around the riser and continues to occilate as it travels down range.  However, the term to describe that phenomenon is not paradox, but arrow occilation or bending of the arrow.  Substitute either of those words for the word paradox in your sentence, and it is accurate.  Archer's paradox is a result contrary to expectation.  You obviously get it because you subsequently provided the link to Elmer's definition of paradox, the guy who coined the term.  However, a lot of folks continue to use the word paradox to mean arrow occilation/bending, even after your post.  That's not what paradox/archer's paradox is.   :deadhorse:

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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2010, 08:58:00 PM »
a bowhunters paradox >>>------> Pope & Ashby

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Re: Bowhunters Parradox, Whats the Deal?
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2010, 10:35:00 PM »
In BobCo's illustration, it shows that the string travels along the centershot line after it is released.  Actually, this is not the case.  When the string rolls off the fingers, it immediately travels sharply to the left (right hand shooter).  This is what starts the oscillation in the first place.

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