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Author Topic: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?  (Read 1296 times)

Offline Axis Hunter

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2010, 04:18:00 PM »
So you use a pretty light arrow for shooting deer. I can't get over the fact that people that shoot compounds are just now learning that a high FOC and a heavy arrow are the key to penetration not speed.
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2010, 04:25:00 PM »
how about a 440gr. arrow out of a 44# recurve:) thats my setup for everything. deer to hogs

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 04:37:00 PM »
"Which would hurt more, getting hit with a ping pong ball thrown 90 MPH or a golf ball thrown 70 MPH?" (Mitch-In-NJ)
Great Example
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 04:39:00 PM »
"Which would hurt more, getting hit with a ping pong ball thrown 90 MPH or a golf ball thrown 70 MPH?" (Mitch-In-NJ)
Great Example

Remember to reach full draw with heavy arrows!!
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Offline Axis Hunter

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2010, 04:40:00 PM »
im thinkin golf ball lol
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2010, 04:50:00 PM »
I practice and shoot arrows in the 10-12gpp range. I'm not really concerned with speed but prefer a properly tuned arrow regardless of weight.

Offline Axis Hunter

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2010, 04:52:00 PM »
so regardless of the weight? so say its a 120grain arrow with an 85grain broad head there wouldn't be any concern? not tryin to sound pushy just wanting to know
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2010, 05:26:00 PM »
shouldve made a poll for this
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2010, 05:30:00 PM »
My first priorites are a quiet well tuned arrow. If I can get that and still have spped I'll take it. On the small texas whitetails I hunt I want to shoot as flat as I can(even if it is only to 25 yds)At 8gpp I still get very quiet. If 450gr is deadly out of a 45# bow, it is even more so out of a 55# bow

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2010, 05:31:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Axis Hunter:
So you use a pretty light arrow for shooting deer. I can't get over the fact that people that shoot compounds are just now learning that a high FOC and a heavy arrow are the key to penetration not speed.
Because they got caught in the speed race.....Only reason for more speed out of an arrow is longer distance. Most animls are shot at 20yds or less. Way I see it if you want to shoot fast use a rifle. No arrow is ever gonna come close to the speed of a bullet. The firearms industry went through this same deal(some people don't learn from old mistakes). They went for all out speed to figure killing power and forgot that projectile weight and construction are also a big part of the picture.

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2010, 05:37:00 PM »
i agree completely brinkwolf its basically like shooting a rifle though. u put the site on them, pull the trigger and thats it
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2010, 05:46:00 PM »
Besides all the bone smashing and penetration pluses a heavy arrow offers, the way they quite a bow down is probably the biggest upside.  My Griffin when shooting a 500 grain arrow would zip the heck out of those arrows but bow was not quite.  This is with no string attachments.  Once I got to 580+ grains she became whisper quite.  With the 678 grainers, it is dead silent.

Just means all the energy is going into the arrow.  Fast is fun but heavy and slow is the ticket.

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2010, 05:48:00 PM »
wow you shoot really heavy arrows whats your bow #age
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2010, 06:14:00 PM »
60" McCullough Griffin 53#@28

 
 

Currently, I'm working up some EFoC arrows for my 60" LaClair Grayling Spirit RC (59 Kodiak) 62@29, but I'm pulling just a tad over 28.

Early indication seem like I'll end up with a 732 grain arrow.  EFoC around 26%, 12.5 gpp.  Bare shafted this past weekend, but now have to fletch up some shafts and see how the plane.  With this set-up, I should be able to shoot a 682 gr arrow and 635 on the lower side.

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2010, 06:17:00 PM »
very beautiful bow
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2010, 06:53:00 PM »
460 gr is not a light arrow for deer.

A ping pong ball weighs 2.7 grams.
A 16lb bowling ball is 7256 grams - 2688 times heavier.

The question should be then bowling ball at 90mph or ping pong ball at 241,920 mph.

Or you need to compare say a 400 gr arrow to a 1,075,200 gr arrow. Got one of those for the test?  :D

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2010, 07:12:00 PM »
My arrows for my light bows run around 500 to 650grns plus and the arrows for my big bows go over 750grns. It will change the weight on the heavy arrows when and if I change broadheads(225 to 300grns single bevel heads).

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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2010, 08:38:00 PM »
Heavy for me.Which hurts more a rock or a feather.LOl
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2010, 08:43:00 PM »
Heavy at close range it works just fine
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Re: Heavier Slower moving arrow over a fast light arrow?
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2010, 08:50:00 PM »
I use 525 (carbons)-604 (laminated birch) gr arrows out of my 51# Hill bow.  She is silent as can be.  At the Compton shoot the guys shooting with me kept commenting on how silent it was, and also how poor my shooting was too.  LOL  

I prefer heavier arrows.
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