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Author Topic: Russell Moccasins ?  (Read 942 times)

Offline Bigriver

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2010, 12:35:00 PM »
I went to the shop & had them do the tracing, they still screwed them up. I think for a beat around boot they are fine, but for elk hunting & such,which is why I bought the "mountain hunters", they suck. You can do way better with Meindel, Han Waka, lowe or any number of mountain boots. I was really dissapointed in the company & the boots. I am sure they will last forever seeing as I can wear them without my feet turning into hamburger    :p
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Offline Arrow4Christ

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 12:39:00 PM »
I'm a fan of them as well...extremely comfortable and durable for me.

Offline Chris Surtees

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 01:04:00 PM »
I bought a pair of the bowhunter boots and had them replace the scentlok liner with insulation. By far the best boot I have ever purchased...having EEEE wide feet makes it kinda hard to find good cold weather boots that fit properly. My personal experience with Russell was a good one and if I ever wear these boots out I will most certainly be buying another pair.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2010, 04:49:00 PM »
I like mine.  I like the heavy duty Vasque better.  I have experienced some of the problems already posted but think the money was well spent.  I do not go to the mountains without them. Oh, i think i have the elk hunters.

Offline Keith Zimmerman

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2010, 06:09:00 PM »
Love mine.  I have to say they rank at the top for my Elk Hunting boots.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2010, 07:19:00 PM »
I wear their upland boots as my main hunting shoe - Texas to Canada.

Offline Bald Spot

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2010, 09:42:00 PM »
I had a pair that were really comfortable but the big problem was that they wore out VERY quickly in the toe when I started wearing them in really rocky country (i.e. Snake River elk and chukar hunting).  The toe is the vulnerable part of the boot.  Not a big deal if you aren't in the rocks.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2010, 10:52:00 PM »
I had a pair of "Sheep Hunters" and thought they were the best thing since sliced bread until I took them on a backpack sheep hunt.  My experience leads me to say if you are doing anything short of sheep/goat hunting where you can expect fairly dry conditions, they would be a good boot.

I have a friend who recently had a similar experience to Big River's...they may be slipping in their quality and I'm not planning on chancing another pair.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2010, 11:01:00 PM »
I live 30 minutes from the store. I have boots off the shelf that people ordered and did not pick up. They cut one set down and made them 6" high for me at no cost.

The company has two brothers that have been working there 50+ yrs each.

President George W. Bush had a set measured for him so he can hunt with Chaney. (DUCK DOWN)

It is time for them to get new blood in and train the boys but they still do most by hand and the labor is to much work for the boys now days.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2010, 06:33:00 PM »
Sounds like for the money you could do better...just an observation. There are some really great boots out there for half that price.
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Offline Mike Gibbs

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2010, 07:12:00 PM »
I looked at their site.  I have high arches and a wide foot; it's difficult for me to find anything that fits, but nothing they offer can justify Russell's prices, IMO. No matter how much money a man has to spare, he's be silly to give it to Russell.  People ought to think about that--just because you can afford it, doesn't mean you ought to waste it by getting ripped off. Just my 2 cents.

Offline Otto

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2010, 10:10:00 AM »
Russell boots are custom made from measurements off your foot.  Provide the correct measurements and they'll make every effort to make you a pair of boots that fit properly.

I'm very happy with the 6 pair I own.  Evidently I got "ripped off" by purchasing boots that fit, are comfortable and outlast anything else I've ever owned.

Good thing I didn't listen to someone who's never even seen a pair of Russells much less owned a pair.
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Offline Mike Gibbs

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2010, 10:20:00 AM »
Otto, if you have 6 pair, and you paid the prices he's currently asking, you didn't just get ripped off, you got ripped off 6 times.

Offline Kevin Dill

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2010, 10:45:00 AM »
My HCH boots are a cherished part of my gear. I've worn them on several difficult hunts and they've never given me a moment's trouble. I can't say that about Cabela's, Rocky, Browning, Lowa, and several others (built in Ying Yang Province) that I probably spent a sum total of over $1,000 to own. Given the price of my USA built HCH boots, I'd actually call them a real bargain...I plan to get 20 more years out of them.

Not everyone will agree of course. My impromptu tally is that the majority of Russell owners don't feel ripped off...are happy with their purchase...and would buy them again. Apparently most (not all) of the TG-ers who own them are quite pleased as well.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2010, 01:04:00 PM »
I've been a happy customer for the last 15 years. High Country Hunters, Snake Boots, Zephyrs, and a pair of Safari PH's. I have narrow feet (12B)and they are the only boots I've found that I can hunt comfortably in all day. And with the way they are holding up I doubt I will need another pair for many years.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2010, 01:19:00 PM »
I wish mine woulda' fit better-really worked at it too   :dunno:    :dunno:    "[dntthnk]"

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2010, 05:46:00 PM »
I am just letting people know my experience, just like you people who love them. They did my foot tracing at the store, took 2 months longer to make the boots then promised & when I received them, they had all the problems I described.

 I dont really care if you buy 20 pairs & love them, my experience with the boots & the company sucked. Guys need to know both sides of the story with Russells.

It`s hard for some peolple to admit they bought something not up to the hype. I dont have that issue. I think there are way better boots for the rediculous amount of money you pay for Russell boots. Mine cost more than my first car.

Anyone wants to buy mine in brand new condition, let me know.
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Offline ArrowCrester

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2010, 01:08:00 AM »
I have two styles of Russell Boots:

Mohican Stalker w/Air Bob Vibrum Sole & 200 Thinsulate lining, 9" height

Russell Tracker w/ MultiPurpose Sole, 7" height

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Both are excellent mocs….. the Tracker is a warm weather boot and with the addition of the Multi Purpose Sole they are quiet and comfortable to walk in and you can still feel the earth under your feet when you are stalking prey. Just like a true moc.(without the multipurpose sole)

The Mohican Stalker is more of a colder weather boot as it has the insulated liner and a vibrum outsole.

With wax that Russell sells they do stay dry for a while but under hard continuous wet weather they will get your feet wet.

I have found that a GOOD Pac type boot is the best to keep your feet warm and  dry in Cold weather and be comfortable to walk in.  For that I have a pair of 10" Schnee's Outfitter Boots with High Traction Advantage outsole and Thinsuate Ultra liner and Wool Felt insulation. They are extremely comfortable to walk in and will keep your feet dry and warm.


The boots you are considering have the claw air bob sole. They would not be as nimble and quiet as the multipurpose sole I mentioned above. I do see that Russell shows that sole as an option..see their web page...  Something to consider,,,     :dunno:        :dunno:        :dunno:


The quality of leather and workmanship of both shoemakers I mentioned are excellent. Also, I have had great customer service from both.
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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2010, 10:40:00 AM »
I have 2 pairs of Russell PH boots. Like any handmade product, the finished product varies with the individual making the boots as well as how he was feeling and working at the time the boots were made. As reflected by the comments here, the reactions to the quality of the boots has been very mixed. Some folks have had very good experiences with their Russell boots, while others have had poor experiences. Overall, I think the Russells are excellent when they are properly constructed. The materials are great and the basic design is good. The boots hold up well with use. The major disadvantages of the Russells are cost, inconsistent manufacturing, and lack of form fitting padding materials found on most modern boot designs. These lead to less than perfect fit and support as well as high cost. Both pairs of my boots had minor manufacturing problems, like thin leather half-insoles that were glued in with glue that did not hold them in place and extra length in a piece of the tongue that folded over and irritated the top of my foot. The problems were fairly easily fixed, but not without the hassle of getting them to a shoe repair shop. There is no excuse for poor execution in the manufacture of boots that cost $300 a pair! The boots take some time to break in, despite contrary claims by Russell. My foot slips around some in the Russells when walking on steep terrain because there is no form fitting padding like on most of my other boots. I do love the overall feel and fit, the ability to have the proper length and width, and the ability to choose the sole and have it replaced as necessary. It is also very nice to be able to send the boots back to Russell for repairs. Boots like these only become better with age because the shape to your feet more and more over time. Every year I use my Russells I like them better. That is also a big disadvantage of the boots, because they don't feel as comfortable out of the box or in the early part of their use as most other boots I have. On the other hand, boots like my Merrills are very comfortable to walk in but have very noisy soles that cannot be replaced. In Africa my professional hunters hate how much noise I make in my Merrills and love how quite my Russells are (one pair has the plantation crepe soles and the other has the Airbob soles). The Russells will outlast the Merrills by a large margin, but the Merrills cost much less and are more comfortable and more supportive. I can buy 3 pairs of the Merrills for the cost of one pair of the Russells, but I can never get rid of the noisy soles on the Merrills. I wish Merrill would build an ankle height, lightweight boot with replaceable soles, but they don't. So, I will continue to recommend Russells, but only with the caveats I have mentioned. They are good boots; however, there is much room for improvement despite Russell's failure to implement those improvements. The same can be said for boots by Merrill and others. While in Africa, everyone laments the fact that no company builds the kind of lightweight hunting boots that many hunters desperately need.

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Re: Russell Moccasins ?
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2010, 02:49:00 PM »
Too many horror stories for me to even consider the Russells.  They really seem to be hit and miss.  You see the same stories on several different forums.
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