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Author Topic: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting  (Read 1221 times)

Offline Brock

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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2010, 03:09:00 PM »
Nooooooo....breaking arrows gives me an excuse to make or buy more.  Why would I want to fix them?

Plus, it is like other ammunition.....good to rotate them every now and then and you do it by shooting them until they are gone and buying new to replace. LOL
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 03:17:00 PM »
I fixed these cedars with an aluminum arrow sleeve for a friend.  Similar as you would construct a takedown arrow I'm told.  Never tried to do that

 

Cut the arrow off above the break right below the crest.

 

Added more cresting to cover the sleeve  :D  ...Van
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 03:25:00 PM »
Fixed these for a friend using single splice footings.  He killed an elk with one of the fixed ones...Van
 
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2010, 06:38:00 PM »
Thanks for your thoughts, imput and warnings guys especially with the mid arrow repairs.
My thought was to use it for footing on arrows with broken ends. I know about Reparrows and think they are fantastic but most the arrows I'm repairing are for kids with lite weight guava bows we made. Got about half dozen kids 8-12 years old building bows and making arrows. We put so much time into making our shafts I'd like to be able to fix the ones that hit a lava rock  :)  I'm all about safety but I'm part frugul archer like my hero Van/TX  :thumbsup:  You know....give a guy a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him to fish.....
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2010, 07:53:00 PM »
Good thing you are doing for the kids Jerry.  Make the arrows long of course so you can fix with another tip when they break behind the point for at least a couple of times  :)  Hope that thing you ordered works for you.  Save all the broken arrows for parts.  Good luck  :thumbsup:  ...Van
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2010, 09:13:00 PM »
Thanks Van....longer arrows    :knothead:   ( some times I miss the obvious) We have a blast and the best part is now my son is excited about shooting his bow.

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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2010, 09:37:00 PM »
That's beautiful work, Van!

I know that it's possible to repair arrows safely, but it's not something that should be undertaken lightly. A certain degree of skill and understanding of wood structure are necessary, and there's no room for error. When it's done right, like Van's, it can be a thing of beauty.
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2010, 10:51:00 PM »
As Elmer Fudd often said: "Vewy intewesting!"

This tool incorporates one concept I tried when developing the Reparrow. Watch both for a couple of years.
"Reparrows save arrows!"

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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2010, 11:23:00 PM »
Seems like you could buy several hundred new wood shafts for $149.00.

You should always check your wood arrows for damage or cracks. Saw this happen years ago. Scary

 
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2010, 06:20:00 AM »
It's not worth the price of ending my shooting days, I do like reparrows for the end of the shaft. Other than that if they break or get nicked I break them and enjoy the smell of cedar.
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2010, 01:44:00 PM »
Thanks Don!

bofish, you haven't kept up with wood shaft prices in the last few years  :p  ...Van
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2010, 02:07:00 PM »
oops!
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2010, 02:08:00 PM »
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Thats crazy.  Even if you could keep the shaft straight - I can't believe there is any strength in that joint.

In the old days - when you broke a wood arrow - you enjoyed the smell of fresh cedar and gave the feathered end of the the shaft a proper burial by sending it skyward!
There's something strangely satisfying about watching a broken arrow disappear into the wild blue yonder!  There's a 200 acre pasture behind my house that is the final resting place of a couple dozen!     :thumbsup:   [/b]
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2010, 06:57:00 PM »
149 American dollars?? You know how many dozen shafts I can buy with that? (Lets not forget the extra$ for UPS!) No way in heck.
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2010, 07:34:00 PM »
I tried that exact concept about 8 years ago.  Tapered a drill bit and made some jigs.  Yes it will work, but getting the alignment perfect is a chore, and not enough glue surface to make it safe.

I did rig up a simple scarf joint jig that does work, very well.  Even tested it against cement blocks with no joint failures.  It requires a lot more glue area than this thing.
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2010, 07:41:00 PM »
Is it cheaper than a plastic surgeon? Don't do it.Just buy a new shaft and spend time crow dipping and cresting.A prosthetic bow arm would cost a fortune.
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2010, 09:55:00 PM »
Van you are right when did wood shafts get so darn high. Glad I still have 300 shafts.
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2010, 10:35:00 PM »
Seeing that and thinking about a broken arrow shaft in the back of my hand makes even a dozen arrows look really cheap.
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2010, 09:40:00 AM »
bofish, not sure when.  Started happening a few years ago and then they added some kind of tax on shafts.  If I had 300 shafts I probably wouldn't do as much fixing as I do...Van
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Re: If you ever broke a wood arrow this looks interesting
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2010, 05:50:00 PM »
This jig works great, if you do your part. Like every jig, it takes a little fiddling around to get it.
Although I would not repair an arrow in the mid section, it is great to use. Although, the guy who designed it uses repaired arrows like this all the time and he repairs em all over the shaft. It makes buying top of the line wood arrows so much more econimical in the long run.
If you use a black locust footing, your cedars will become much tougher. Compared to a 4 wing-footing, my cedar arrows footed with a footing like this behind the point makes the ferrule of field points split open if I hit something real hard like a steel post or concrete block.I still have 2 doz custom cedar arrows from 1999 out of a 3 doz. lot and 20 of the 24 carry a locust footing behind the point. They're as good as ever. I have the complete jig here in my home with all accessories. The lineup is easy, because there is a V-groove alignment in the tool. I field tested that tool and incorporated my ideas in the final design. I had it at Cloverdale at the kids bow give-away,too.
The repair joint is much stronger than any other method. Being an engineer I calculated a lot of joints. And you can order it direct from DiFis Engineering if you want one, saving you some retail markup. Me and my Dad and some friends are using that repair method for more than 10 years. If you have a lathe you can just order the conical drill,too. Everything is available seperate as well.
Van/TX method also work, but if you hit something real hard, these footing tend to splinter. The footing joint here, if it breaks, breaks clear like a normal shaft behind the point, allowing for another repair.

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