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Author Topic: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.  (Read 462 times)

Offline PAPA BEAR

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2010, 12:16:00 AM »
guy got pissed because you caught him red handed stealin your meat.i had a butcher try and pass half a 6x6 elk off as a whole one once.'tried'.we argued for ten minutes or more about the amount of full boxes which was only four.get 8 out of a cow i told him. then i said i weighed it before i brought it in and there wasnt much fat on it because i debone and trim well so i have less to pack out. i told him to show me the weight slips.he suddenly remembered he had left 4 or 5 big banana boxes of my meat in the freezer.my ass i told him,get my meat ya thief and be snappy so's i can get out of your establishment and spread the word you're a no good lyin thief....should of seen his face,thought he was gonna either hurl or piss himself.ya think they'd figure it out huh.  :dunno:    :dunno:
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Offline hedgetree

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2010, 12:16:00 AM »
I also have a 1HP from Cabelas and it works great.

Offline Dave Bulla

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2010, 02:48:00 AM »
Apex,

Thanks for the pictures of your home made setup.  I've got the grinder already, I'm an industrial mechanic in a place that throws away literally tons of stuff that would work.  I've got an old but I think unused motor in the garage and a pile of scrap wood so I guess I have no excuse except finding some pulleys.

Where did you get the big pulley on the back of the grinder?  Did you modify the connection at all?

Gonna have to make one of these setups for sure....
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Offline Apex Predator

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2010, 06:54:00 AM »
Dave, I believe the large one came from an outlet that sells grinders.  I used this guys plans, but modified it some.  I used a #32 grinder and a 1 hp motor.  Most of the stuff came off the big auction site.  The base is a box with a removable bottom to access the mounting hardware.

 http://www.sausagemania.com/grinder.html
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Offline foxbo

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2010, 07:15:00 AM »
I shopped around a couple of years ago and ended up purchasing an LEM gringer off of fleabay. Basspro sells the same brand. I bought the .35hp model. I believe it sells at big stores for around 275, plus tax. Or, maybe that was the sale price. Either way, I got mine for 250 shipped which is not bad cause they're pretty heavy. From my experience, I would not purchase one any smaller. I kind of wish I had gone with the .50, or .75hp model as they have the reverse switch. That comes in real handy if the grinder wants to stall. I've turned mine off and then when I turn it back on, it's locked up. A reverse switch would save me the trouble of taking the feed tube off and cleaning the blades. As long as I keep it turning, it's fine though. I owned two of those plastic housing grinders for around a hundred bucks and burnt both of them up. If you're going to get one which will last you for years, I'd say you're going to spend close to 300 bucks. If you're smart, you'll spend a hundred or so more bucks extra and go with something which has a 1hp motor. I know that's what I'd do if I could. Good luck.
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Offline Missouri CK

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2010, 02:42:00 PM »
I've got a question for all you grinders out there.  I am still using a hand crank model and it works ok. My only complaint is that I get a lot of meat that comes out at the end that is ground mush. I.E. It has been over processed in the grinder.  I'm using the largest diameter end on the grinder but I still have this happen.  My wife complains that she doesn't like the texture of deer and I think this is part of the problem. Anyone dealt with this problem.  Any solutions?
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Offline foxbo

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2010, 03:50:00 PM »
If your meat is kind of like mush, there are two reasons I'm aware of. First, your cutting blade probably needs to be replaced as it may be dull. Second, if you cut your meat up and put it in the freezer until it starts to freeze, but not hard, it will go thru any grinder much better. It's a world of difference and you'll have to try it to see the difference. Also, I make sure that I tighten down a bit on the grinder head after I turn it on and I apply a touch of cooking oil to the blade and screen prior to assembly.
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Offline koger

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2010, 10:17:00 PM »
Chris another reason is sinew/sliversking wrapped around the cutter, slows down the movement of ground burger int he grinder and makes the mushy burger. I have had the same problem with a hand operated grinder. I appreciate all the feedback guys. Now if the deer and elk will cooperate.
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Offline LA Trapper

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2010, 12:23:00 AM »
I have that grinder from Northern Tool also. Awesome buy.  They run it on sale every year.  I don't remember what model, but it gobbles up the meat and does not bog down.  Paid around a $95 five years ago. I still see it on sell.
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Offline Dave Bulla

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2010, 02:22:00 AM »
Yup Chris, partially frozen meat cuts a LOT better.

On my hand crank that seemed to be getting a little dull, I put some comet cleanser all over the cutting surfaces and cranked it to try to lap the blades to the grinder face.  Seemed to work somewhat but then I got to thinking that I'd have to do every single plate and each one might be changing the mating surfaces so I gave up on that idea.  Still, the blade did seem to cut better afterwards.
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Offline Brian Krebs

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2010, 03:30:00 AM »
I have a 1 1/2 horse power that works really well; it takes time; but its worth it.

 I cut meat commercially for a while; as an employee.  A lot of meat gets tossed if it has dirt on it or gravel - as gravel can ruin grinder blades.

 We processed an elk once that was shot with a rifle; once through the front shoulders; once through the back legs; once up both back straps; and one through the neck. I think we got about 50 pounds of meat off that entire elk!

 Most butchers have a rule about deer- you get so many steaks; so many roasts and so much burger.

 A good meat processor will take care of all the meat- do each deer once at a time; and return all the meat to the hunter. As it should be.

 Hey Dave- I was thinking that if you had a setup like the one shown above - the right switch might be from a sewing machine- so that you can just move your foot and not lose your arm... the humongous grinder we used at the processor had a knob you could hit to cut the power instantly.

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2010, 07:22:00 AM »
I have a hand-operated grinder just like Apex Predator’s; I automated it a little bit differently though. I used a 90 degree, 10 to 1, gear reducer and attached that to my drill press. I am turning at about 35 RPMs and it seems to be working all right. Curious about how fast grinders are supposed to be cranking (RPM)?

Offline Benner

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Re: Need info/feedback, anyone process their deer with grinders.
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2010, 09:05:00 AM »
I use 1/2 hp one from Cabelas. You can grind a couple hundred pounds of meat in a few minutes. I use it for stuffing sausage also.

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