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Author Topic: Orderd Carbons now scared!  (Read 741 times)

Offline TroutGuide

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Orderd Carbons now scared!
« on: August 25, 2010, 03:14:00 PM »
I placed a order for some GT Traditional arrows from my local shop and now I am afraid he talked me into the wrong arrow.  I shoot a Root 58" 45@28 bow with a 28"draw.  So what arrow would your recomend in the GT trad.  Will have 5" right helical and will tune point and length to work.  I will say what he is fletching for me after a few unbiased answers.  I have been shooting Aluminum.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 03:17:00 PM »
35/55
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 03:18:00 PM »
Let me add I would like a good FOC and fairly heavy total arrow(500-575).
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2010, 03:24:00 PM »
55/75 cut to 30-31 inches with 225-250 up front should get you close with 5" feathers.  A little depends on how far the bow is cut to center and what string material your shooting.  But I think this setup would get you close.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 03:25:00 PM »
Not enough information to even guess.

Theoretically you can make MOST arrow fly out of any bow with unlimited point weights and adjusting of length and side plate. However not all those combinations will be practical, suitable for your application (e.g. hunting) or not even possible (hard to find point weights above 300 and less than 75/100).

1. Is the bow cut to center?
2. How smooth is your release?
3. What FOC are you trying to achieve?
4. Do you have a specific broadhead in mind-assuming hunting?
5. What distances do you want to be able to shhot at/
6. Do you have a minimum weight you want to have or a max in the finished arrow?
...ad infinitum

I'm not trying to evade or be difficult. The quesiton is too lacking in information to answer.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 03:28:00 PM »
35/55

Offline TroutGuide

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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 03:40:00 PM »
This ia a old recurve with dacron strings and is cut to center not past.  I have a good release.  I would like a good hunting FOC with hunting weigth BH 2 blade zwicky or the like.  No more than 20yd shots for now.  Would prefer arrow weight around 500-575.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 03:50:00 PM »
I am shooting the GT 35-55 with 175 grains up front. My draw is 26 1/2", measured from the string to the deepest part of the grip, and the arrows are 28" long. My bow is 46# at my draw.

If you have a cutoff saw, you can always have the fletcher leave them long and tune them yourself by cutting.

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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 03:54:00 PM »
I just weighed an arrow. It is 515 grains all told.

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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 03:54:00 PM »
Okay that is what I thought  35-55.  Well he sold me 55-75.  So can I make these work or do I need to call him and try to change to the lower spine arrow.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 04:02:00 PM »
I think you can make the 55-75s work, but I think you will need to start with them full length and put more weight up front. You will probably finish up at the high end of your weight range maybe somewhat higher. I'm not familiar with the GT so I'm guess a bit on weight. I'm assuming about 32" full length and 9gpi.

You will only know after you try.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 04:03:00 PM »
Change the order there is absolutely no need for you to go 55/75. TM
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 04:08:00 PM »
If it were me, I would have him change the order. I have both 35/55's and 55/75's. As someone else has already said, you will have to leave the 55/75's full length (which is 32 1/2") and load up the front end.

My 35/55's with 50 grains of brass up front and 125 to 145 grain tips will shoot just fine out of everything that I have from 42# @ 29"......up to 51# @ 28".

The 35/55's also come full length at 30 1/2" which is a full 2 inches shorter than the 55/75's. With your draw length that is a lot of "hangover".......not that it will hurt anything.........just unnecessary in my opinion.

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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 04:29:00 PM »
I would start with the 55-75 at full length with a 175gr. point if you don't want to change the order.  That should put you somewhere close with about a  515 gr. arrow.  I would change the order to a 35/55 myself though.

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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2010, 04:34:00 PM »
I think Tim Fishell is on the money.I shoot a 43#,'59 Bear Grizzly which I draw to 45#,cut to center.I tuned a set of Gold Tip Traditional 5575's to it.They are cut to 30",aluminum insert and 235 gr point.They have 9" cap wraps and (3)5" feathers.FOC is 21 % and total weight is 565 grs.Black shafts,deduct something like 25 grs.You could cut an inch off and add about 25 grs also.My broadhead is a 160 gr STOS with a 75 gr steel adaptor.

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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2010, 04:36:00 PM »
Definitely 3555s.  Those 5575s may end up full length and weigh 700 grains to get them to fly right.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2010, 04:48:00 PM »
Well thanks all. JimB that is about what I was thinking was going to happen with these arrows. I called to change order and he assured me that they would fly like darts when finished.  The only thing that scares me is he thinks I will need a 125 gr tip.  I know that is not going to work but we will shoot them in his range before cutting and try to get tuned.  If all else fails I will have them refletched for my wheel bow.  I have been wanting to increase gpp on it as well.  Plus since I called and questioned the spine I think he will have to take care of me if they don't work.
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2010, 06:04:00 PM »
Let us know how that works out and good luck.

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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2010, 06:10:00 PM »
35/55
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Re: Orderd Carbons now scared!
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2010, 06:10:00 PM »
I vote for 35\\55. I shoot 55\\75 out of 56lb. bows. They are full lenght and have 100 grn. brass and 225 up front.
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