I would have to go back and check but I take my armguard off about the first ting when I get back to my truck and since i'm usually alone they may not be in pics. However I had your hunter model on for both deer this year, the one last year, and the one (my first trad) the year before, Mike. Come to think of it, I don't know if I could even shoot one now without it on - :p . If I'm shooting or hunting, I am wearing one or the other of your models. Like I always say, "The only time I really need one is when I forget to put one on." (OUCH!)