Got my bare carbon shafts grouping about a foot at 20 yards from my recurve. Can't shoot much better with feathers but then I got this Idea. I screwed one of my new broadheads on to see how it would fly on a bare shaft. You guessed it, over the target and under the grass, after an hour of raking and looking no shaft. Then another idea, get the wife to watch while I try again with another new broadhead. Now got two under the grass. Not to worry, getting a metal dector tomorrow...........LOL