don't add me Jeff.you have been good to me already and i thank you for that.i have been collecting materials to make my own arrows for that great bow you made me.i have feathers,sinew,heads(soon).all that i need is some shafts.i won't be long,i will send you some pics of my arrows.thank you for being so nice to people,steve p.s.i was talking on the phone with suzzanne st.charles one day about arrow weight.her dad was there and said,you can throw a ping-pong ball or a golf ball at a snow bank,which one do you think you should throw?i'll never forget that statement.good luck on the fishing,steve