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Author Topic: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today  (Read 712 times)

Offline Buckeye Trad Hunter

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Re: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2010, 06:16:00 PM »
The problem with that editorial is the same as with so many arguments that many people try to make.  They think, just as this person did, that they can argue their one sided point based solely on their own emotional reasoning.  They take no time to actually study the facts and history of what is actually going on.  If they do actually do some research they do what this person aparently did, they read the part that says hunters used to hunt for survival then the so called "researcher" says well we don't need to hunt any longer because we can just go to the grocery store.  Point being they pick and choose the facts that THEY want to present which changes the context of the reality of things and give a false presentation of the facts.

Obviously the person who wrote this, as with any case, was previously biased against hunting and tried to make a transparent argument based on misrepresented facts.  All said the only person who can truly research a situation and present the true argument for or against is a person who is truly not affected and has no reason to care what the outcome is.  Like it or not the anti's emotions overrun the facts when they argue against hunting and although we're not nearly as bad or as far off base we allow our feelings to interject as well.

But the anti's can suck it cause we're still right and they're not.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2010, 07:25:00 PM »
Mitch - maybe not for you.  Where's your creativity?   :saywhat:
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Re: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2010, 07:42:00 PM »
We all need to pay attention to this type thing, and we should never believe that this is not a serious threat.
We have many hunting videos now on TV, we have people viewing killing of animals that have never seen this type thing in the past. As they flip channels they see animals lying on the ground kicking, hunters giving high fives because they killed an animal and scenes of blood. This is not a good thing for hunting. The non hunting public do not need to see this stuff.
We need to be smarter and keep this stuff off the TV.
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Re: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2010, 07:45:00 PM »
:saywhat:  
Another reason why Zog is feared in deer woods and sheep pens everywhere.

Arguments trying to prove a redetermined premise are like sheep jumping a fence backwards. We are what we are, we eat animal and plant life. Even a pure vegan is denying wildlife their habitat, through monocultural agriculture and keeping those thieving deer out of the soybeans. If the true picture of corporate farming were made inescapable, and the lives of our store-bought slices of animals were made blatant, hunting would seem so merciful in contrast. Nothing we do is more natural.

Unsuspecting?
Give me a break. The deer I hunt run from a cricket fart.

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Re: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
It really was not an editorial.  It was a letter to the editor in response to the following article that was published in Sept 2010.  


HAMBURG, Pa. — To millions of Americans, autumn means not just N.F.L.  games and the World Series but also the start of hunting season — a few months packed with chances to stalk deer, bear, ducks and doves with rifles, shotguns, bows and even black-powder muskets.

   
“Hunting is one of those sports where you can’t have too much stuff,” said Dan Gechtman, 46, one of many customers streaming into Cabela’s, a hunting and fishing megastore here, on a balmy afternoon. “This store is on steroids,” he said while trying on a camouflage suit that fluttered with artificial leaves and taking in the dazzling array of products, stuffed animal dioramas and a laser-shooting arcade.

In some rural areas, hunting is still so universal that schools close on the opening day of deer season. President Obama, in a ritual White House act requested by sporting fans and manufacturers, proclaimed Saturday National Hunting and Fishing Day. But as the hunters revel in their preparations for their annual forays into the wild, hunting enthusiasts are gearing up to reverse the long-term dwindling of their ranks.

As the nation becomes more urban and teenagers seek other recreation, the popularity of hunting is declining. The latest federal survey, in 2006, found that 12.5 million people hunt each year, down from 17 million in 1975. Other studies suggest that perhaps 18 million people hunt occasionally, but in any case, hunters represent a shrinking part of the population.

The graying ranks and the impulses that have sustained stores like Cabela’s, even in the recession, are typified by Gerard Dick, 72, who has hunted since childhood and through a career as a high school science teacher. He owns plenty of weapons, he said, but on Thursday afternoon he was checking out a small rifle with a camouflage-covered stock.

“I’ll use it on turkeys and groundhogs,” he said.

The decline in hunters is a concern for state fish and game agencies, which are financed through licenses and excise taxes on sporting goods, as well as for pro-hunting conservation groups and advocates like the National Rifle Association.

“We’re concerned that in the future we aren’t going to have adequate dollars to manage our wildlife resources,” said John E. Frampton, director of South Carolina’s Department of Natural Resources and president of the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies. “We also want to preserve an important part of our heritage.”

Mr. Frampton serves on a new federal advisory board intended “to help promote and preserve America’s hunting heritage for future generations,” in part by drawing in more youths and women.

While declining interest and shrinking wildlife habitat may be the main threats to the pastime, hunting and gun groups are worried by the occasional efforts to restrict it, like the ban on mourning dove hunting in Michigan that was promoted by animal rights advocates.

South Carolina is one of four states, along with Arizona, Arkansas and Tennessee, that will vote this fall on adding the right to hunt and fish to their constitutions. Ten states already have such provisions, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

None of these long-term worries were on the mind of Victor Hakes, 53, as he wandered in Cabela’s on Thursday afternoon with his wife, Shawna, and their grandson after making a two-hour drive from northern Pennsylvania. Mr. Hakes, who builds custom trailers, bags deer and turkeys every year but has not yet shot a bear, “although I passed over two cubs,” he said.

On this trip he was just buying boots, but his eyes shifted toward the gun racks. “I’ve got 10 rifles and shotguns, and she won’t let me buy any more,” he said, nudging his wife with a laugh.

Their 3-year-old grandson, Aiden Jaeger, looked with wide eyes at a huge stuffed moose. “He’ll be a hunter and a fisherman,” Mr. Hakes said, expressing a hope that Aiden would buck the national trend and carry on a family tradition.
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Re: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2010, 07:51:00 PM »
"We need to be smarter and keep this stuff off the TV."

Scout, we need to be smart and make it well-known that this is not what REAL hunting is about. This is a perversion, a pornographication of the ancient and sacred ways of the Earth.

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Re: Anti-hunting editorial in paper today
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2010, 08:05:00 PM »
I don't listen to anti-hunters because they are morons and live in fantasy land where all the animals in the forest love each other,sing and talk.Well said killdeer!
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