Flint Inhumane!!!

[SEMO_HUNTER]

I see this and hear it all the time and have even had some of these kind of somewhat heated debates with fellow hunters myself. But I have arrived at the realization after some maturing on my own behalf that in today's world we should not be criticizing each other for how we chose to hunt. The simple fact that we DO Hunt means that we are on the same side and should ban together like the brothers that we are. The only thing that separates us is the methods with which we chose to pursue our passions.
There are far too many groups out there who's only purpose is to divide us and pit us against ourselves and destroy the sport that we love so dearly, the last thing we should do is fight amongst ourselves.

I also do understand how these confrontations get started and it's usually by someone with an ego that feels the need to tell others how good he is and how right he is.....when in all actuality he is nothing more than a child with some toys.

I lost my ego a long time ago because it's just extra baggage that I don't care to lug around with me.
While I don't particularly agree with every method of hunting that's practiced nowadays, I will stand behind you and your right to engage in it as long as it is legal and all laws are followed. That is what will keep our hunting, fishing, trapping, and shooting sports alive and well, but only if we stick together and not allow ourselves to be torn apart by such petty differences. Bottom line is that we can chose to engage in such confrontations, but there is always the option to simply walk the other direction or handle them privately away from audiences who may not understand.

We either chose to hang together, or apart we will surely hang.

Just my humble opinion.

[TNstickn]

"Trad Bowhunter: I read an article years ago, with accompanying microscopic photos, which showed the edge of a surgeon's scalpel and the edge of a flint, maybe obsidian, knife or arrowhead. The stone edge was perfectly smooth. The metal scalpel had pits and flaws in the cutting edge.

Wish I could find those photos on the net to help you.

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Southpaw shooter...."

I read and saw this article as well. I've since learned that non metallic materials are being used in nerve and brain surgery because of those findings. Its no suprise to me that nature makes something way sharper than we can come up with. -Greg

[chopx2]

Arguing with an ignorant, moronic, idiotic, knucklehead is a waste of time.

Also the terms humane and inhumane as applied to animals and especially game is very dangerous no matter the circumstances. In is an inappropriate adjective. They are not human and we would never consider hunting humans or killing humans or consuming them. That is how anti's want the world to view animals.

[Hookeye]

Eh, tell the clod his GF's picture causes greater wounding/suffering.

 

[vtmtnman]

Haha...Tony!

[Brian Krebs]

I believe eye surgeons use obsidian to operate with too...

[lpcjon2]

You can always take a arrow and poke him in the a$$ with it and ask him if it's sharp enough to  kill humanely.  

[Clark II]

I got into a conversation @ a Subway one day with a guy that claimed Black Bears were not dangerous because you could easily out run them.  I gave up on the premise of "Never argue with an idiot, people might not be able to tell the difference".

[straitera]

Trouble is, the bigger the entity (gov or whatever non hunting group) the more idiots like this will make decisions for you. Challenge them & cut their water off!

[Robert Marvin]

I had a guy from Mossy Oak's Hunting The Country TV show tell me last spring at a turkey camp that recurve hunters only recover 1 out of 10 deer hit.Late 20's know-it-all.I told him he was an idiot which Cuz found funny-he just shook his head about the ignorant kid.

Not all flint edges are created equal.  I am sure that anyone with experience can advise you on testing for sharpness.  I have seen them glide through leather like a steak knife, while the one I was working on would not.  My obsidian was sharp enough that I made that day.  I talked with a man that shot a moose with with a stone point and a self bow that was not all that heavy or fast compared to the Schulz I was shooting that day.  His first arrow hit bone and bounced off, his second came out the other side and took the moose down in just a few seconds. Stone points are way cool, idiots who think they know everything because they watch TV are just idiots.

[the longbowkid]

i encounter o lot of the same reactions in my high school life.. ive decided the best reaction is to calmly explain facts to those willing to listen, and for the large number who want to get into an argument about the matter, to just smile and change the subject.  the fact of the matter is that most people arent going to change their minds once theyve set them against something. 99% of them are more or less completely ignorant on the subject of bowhunting and its complexities, and always remember that whenever you have one of these conversations that youre representing the hunting community.  
shoot straight,
Luke McMillan

[Davt]

I would agree that stone heads are not appropriate except for those who are skilled with their equipment, how to keep them sharp in a quiver and have good knowledge of thier equipment. The equipment does not make the hunter. Now, with someone who is skilled in thier use they have proven there worth.

[Buckeye Trad Hunter]

What was his reason for saying that a stone point is inhumane?  Does he know how sharp stone points are?  Does he know that some surgeons prefer to use obsidian scalpals because of their sharpness and ability to hold an edge?  Sounds to me that he has chosen to take a side on something that he was ignorant about.  Many people in the world have that problem, they believe this way or that just because.  They know nothing about it but they have a hardline stand on the subject.

[chopx2]

A dull broadhead should never be hunted with no matter what it is made from.

No amount of equipment cn make someone a good archer or hunter, just like no amount of argument can make a moron intelligent. M2c

[The Broadhead Guy]

I wonce had A guy give me some friction about the paint I was spraying on the heads i was making being toxic. I had to explian that I was going to try to kill anamels not poisen them.
people see what they want to see.
Do your part be honest with your self about your efectave raing and dont worry about what you can't controle.


five steps can make all the differance.

[GWC]

i also saw that article comparing obsidian blades to surgeons steel blades.Not 100% positive but i believe i read about it in a National Geographic.Ross

[Bear]

You'll learn the art of silence with his type, Jonathan. Proud of ya for standing up, though.    

[IdahoCurt]

How do you practice with a stone head and not damage/dull it,also how do you get your heads all the same size/weight so they fly the same?
Always was curious about that.

[creekwood]

You said "I was just arguing to sharpen his and my own debate skills." I hope that what you have learned from this experience is that when you get mad and almost start yelling, it means that you have lost the debate.  I'm not being critical, I just want you to think about what happened and be more in control the next time some anti starts pushing your buttons. It will make us all look better.