12-15' is what I like. I just dont like the steep shot angles above that. I try to plan my stand location based on terrain,cover,dirrection of deer movement, prevailing wind direction and shooting lanes. My only concern with lower stand eights is when multiple deer come. You just cant keep track of where all of them are looking. I once had nine deer around my stand and nearly had an anxiety attack trying to keep track of all of their positions. Eventually I ended up missing a shot and a doe behind me blew the whistle.