SIMMONS WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bullfrog 1]

Shot a buck this evening with an Interceptor that I had razor sharp and honed to easily shave hair. The shot was 10 yards and quartering away it took him at the last rib and poked out through the front of the chest. I have shot many deer with many broadheads but the wound and blood trail from this was UNREAL. They fly great for my setup and I will be shooting these for a while. I will try to post pics of the wound.   BILL

[AMB]

I love my Simmons!  I've been shooting them a long time.  Here are a couple of pics from my first two this year........

 
190gr. Interceptor

 
Never had any Treesharks, until last week.  They are BIG and fly great with 4 inch feathers.  Left an incredible bloodtrail!

[Mr Green 740]

Thanks for posting. Good shooting!

[Izzy]

They shoot great from my setup but they are technically illegal in NY due to the back swept rear corners.

[Blaino]

I've heard on other post about Simmons being illegal.... I don't understand why the shape / design of a Brodhead makes them illegal?

[Kingstaken]

Heard the same thing but noone has been able to  show me or prove to me when is barbed head considered a barbed head? I don't beleive they fit the catagory of a barbed head because the barb does not start from the shaft which normally would angle immediately backwards.

[Zradix]

A barbed broadhead is one in which the angle formed between the trailing or rear edge of any blade and the shaft is less than 90 degrees. Broadhead examples on the right compare one that is barbed to three that are legal. Broadheads with retractable blades are legal. Broadheads with mechanical blades are legal if the blades DO NOT form a barb or hook when the arrow is pulled from the flesh of a deer or bear.
       

THIS IS NEW YORK'S DEFINITION
Here is a link to the Gov page where the info is posted      http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8305.html  

Even if a stock Shark is illegal..not sure it is... Looks to me that with about 30 secs of filing they could be legal.
The type that have a "pocket" for the shaft to fit into might well be illegal.

That legal vented head in the pic looks similar in style to a shark to me. I hope you can use it if you like it.

[BernieH]

I suspect some of the screw in models may technically qualify as barbed because of how the blade extends back towards the shaft. The glue on models would NOT have this issue.

[Patrick55]

I have been shooting Simmons from when they first came out. Jerry Simmons gave me a six pack to test. The first deer I shot with one you could literally put a soda can in the hole. We went back and forth with the Alabama Fish and game as to whether they were considered a barbed broadhead or not. They determined they were not barbed and legal to hunt with in Alabama. The blades are swept back but not barbed. THANK GOODNESS!! I just do not see myself hunting with anything else.

[Stumpkiller]

I was going to post that they are fine for NY.  

But then I actually got to looking.

Here is the exact wording: "A barbed broadhead is one in which the angle formed between the trailing or rear edge of any blade and the shaft is less than 90 degrees."  So, even though the ferrule is set-back and the blade doesn't meet it with that rear gap of the LandShark, the rear edge is still an oblique angle to the shaft itself.  I'd argue they are not barbed by that definition.

But I'm not a warden or a judge.  It doesn't matter what you or I think - it matters what they think.  I e-mailed the DEC for a clarification.  We'll see if I get a response (I used my O-Fishal Gummint e-mail address -  Wooooooo).

[Huntschool]

I just do not understand the "barbed" mentality.
Its a broadhead.  Its not a harpoon head....  Ya can not reel in a 150# deer on the end of an arrow.....

[Stumpkiller]

I think it has to do with allowing deer or nature to work the head out for healing in the event of a non-lethal hit.  I really don't know. I think the Pearson skeleton barbed head is the hottest looking head ever.  Laws have nothing to do with common sense or fairness.
 
Why are mechanical heads allowed at all?  The majority of them are barbed when open . . . if they open.

[Huntschool]

Stump:

Perhaps but I have checked deer with Razorheads etc. encapsulated all over their bodies One where the hunter brought us in the lungs because he felt something solid.  It was a razorhead type BH solidly encased in the upper outside of the left lung.  It was like cutting into a nut to define the BH

[Kingstaken]

Based on Zradix pics they are legal as they clearly fit the 3rd heads profile.

[Dave Bowers]

I think I will be picking some sharks up real soon  

[Stumpkiller]

Wow!  I got a response already that my question is being directed further upstream (I sent it to the local regional office).  Interesting that they couldn't just look at the image I sent of the LandShark and give a ruling.

Huntschool - I'm with you, not against.  I have no problem with the rear of broadheads; but am of a definate opinion on how the front and cutting edges should be.  Not that anyone cares, but I approve of all of the Simmons heads -  thick, spearpoint blades of good steel and bevel that are easy to sharpen and keep sharp.  I have no issue with anyone who choses to toss a multi-blade or wide head . . . as long as it is with adequate force.  

I have a modest collection of glue-on broadheads and with some you just wonder what and how much the designer was drinking at the time.

[joe ashton]

yikes  

[JAG]

Ya just gotta love them Ineceptors.  I still have some origional ones from Mr. Jerry!  Still doing their thing!

[Friend]

Impressive results!!

[stalkin4elk]

If you like them but have legal issues then check out centaur.com for his bh's that are not "barbed".