Gaining Arrow weight

[Balding Kansan]

After reading a thread about shooting lite arrows I became extremely concerned when I read about the effects a lite arrow can have on a bow. So I went out and bought a scale. I'm around 400 grains. I'm 55 lbs at full draw. I understand I need about 10 grains/lb = 550 grains. Does anyone have some good ideas to gain some weight quickly so I can hunt this weekend and not have to squint my eyes everytime I loose an arrow? Thanks!

[bigbadjon]

What kind of arrow are you shooting? For synthetics you can add heavier inserts and heads. For wood you can only change the head unless you can interally foot them.

[Balding Kansan]

Gold tip 55/75. 28.5" long. 125 grain muzzy. Good question. I should have mentioned that the first time.

[wildgame]

you can get some wieght tubes to put in your shafts!

[Balding Kansan]

I thought about ordering some from 3R but I don't think they'll make it here by this weekend so i'm looking for something quicker.

[cyred4d]

Weight tubes might be your best bet if your inserts are epoxied in. If not you could remove them and add brass inserts.

[Wal]

Dripper tube from garden watering systems will do as a weight tube in a pinch, I found commercial weight tubes belted nocks out a bit on me.

Cheers

[Balding Kansan]

Good tips. I thought I read somewhere about running weed wacker string into the shaft, sound reasonable.

[Rank Bull]

If the inserts are expoxied in, you might be able to cut them off since going with more weight up front will mean you probably need a shorter arrow anyway.

[slivrslingr]

Try a heavier point, you're at the bottom end of of a 55/75 spine wise, you should be ok adding another 100gr.  Just remember, whatever you end up doing, your arrow will drop quicker past 20yds or so.

[Rob DiStefano]

don't use weight tubes, just add the weight up front.  a side benefit will be increased foc for a better tracking arrow.  replace the aluminum adapter with a 125gr steel one, glue on yer broadhead or field point or judo, and yer good to go.  no worries over spine/stiffness - it'll be just fine.

[Balding Kansan]

Thanks guys. Next year my dad and I are switching back to woodies so I don't have to deal with the weight issue as much.

[Rob DiStefano]

imho, carbons and alums are the absolute easiest shafts/arrows to tweak and tune because of inserts, adapters and push-in nocks.  woodies are tougher to tweak and more affected by spine issues.

[Jeff Strubberg]

Wiehgt tubes.  Weight up front is ideal, but you will be tuning different arrows if you add 100 grains up front.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Jeff Strubberg:
Wiehgt tubes.  Weight up front is ideal, but you will be tuning different arrows if you add 100 grains up front.

maybe, maybe not.  carbons have a very different dynamic spine range than other shaft materials.  there's a reason why carbons are spined in 15# ranges, and for sure the carbon shafting spine charts are just not at all accurate.  add into the equation how you aim and shoot an arrow, and you could easily find that any given carbon can span a large range of foc without the need for tweaking.

as a real world example, i shoot 29.25" beman ics 500's with weight ranges between 455 and 615 grains (the weight differences are all up front via the inserts, adapters and points) and all fly dart-like out to 35 yards from a 55# longbow.  carbons are just different animals than alums and woodies.  took me too long and too much dinero to figure that sucker out.    :rolleyes:        :cool:

[SteveT]

You could take out the inserts get some pink or blue foam insulation , run the shaft through it a time or 2 and keep weighing until desired wt.

[bornagainbowhunter]

I have put 1/4" rope inside the shaft before on my heavier bows.  Works well.

God Bless,
Nathan

[Jeff Strubberg]

Different strokes I guess, Rob.  I can't get away with a 50 grain change without going to a different shaft or cutting them to bump my knuckle up front.

I have a buddy who can shoot literally any arrow out of his sub-50 pound longbow.  Guy drives me crazy.  

[RC]

I`ve used weedeater lines. 4 I think to make it snug. Also the tubing you buy at walmart for fish tanks works but the best thing to do is get about a 225-300 grain broadhead.If its a bit weak you would be surprised at how little it takes to shorten a carbon to stiffen it up.RC

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Originally posted by Jeff Strubberg:
Wiehgt tubes.  Weight up front is ideal, but you will be tuning different arrows if you add 100 grains up front.

That is absolutely correct. You can't take a well tuned arrow, add 100 grains up front, and expect it to still be properly tuned. It's no wonder so many people think they need heavy arrows with EFOC and narrow single bevel heads to shoot through a whitetail.