Yes Todd, the trail was as red and profuse as it probably can get. When following through I saw the arrow exit the opposite side of the deer and bury deep into the ground. Not a small feat as anyone from my home state (KY) will tell you, our turf has experineced a terrible drought so the ground was pretty hard before the recent heavy rain. The deer sprinted about 25 yards with red blowing out both sides, began to stagger and then collapsed. Total distance, about 35 yards. The trail was very impressive. Even though I saw her fall I took up the blood trail out of curiousity. I was a bowhunter education instructor for 20 years and always told my students to follow every blood trail that they made, even if they saw the deer fall, as you can always learn something. I was shooting a 60 pound Morrison ILF, an Axis N-Fused shaft tipped with a 250 gr. Terminator. I do not use any stones whatsoever when sharpening my Terminators. I prefer the edge produced with a single direction file only, which can work great once yu develop the "feel" if you will. In 1985 my old friend Fred Bear showed me how to use a file to create and maintain an effective hunting edge on 2 and 3 blade heads and I never looked back. A lot of guys prefer a finer edge, and that's fine too, but I prefer my method because it's quicker and is effective. If you doubt it take another look at the photo I posted:^)