Butch is the owner/inventor of Guido's Web treestands. He's running a Christmas special. Just google guidos web. The treesaddle can't even compare, trust me. The quality is phenominal. And get this, Butch had mine sewn up when ordered. Mine was made right down there in good old Mississippi the week after i placed my order. No mass assembling or chinese outsourcing. If you go to you tube and do a search, you can see the video demo for the product. Also, i'm not bashing the treesaddle, after using it exclusively this season (along with the Climb Paws), I just think every problem I had with the saddle was eliminated with the web. For example, the saddle requires you to have to walk to your stand with all of your outerwear on. With guido's, you can pack your jacket in the back for you trip in. Just check it out for yourself.