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[Morning Star]

I just gave up on my Gold Tip XT's, been shooting them for 10 years.  The CE Heritage 150's I replaced them with seem to be great shafts.  My first dozen has only 2 grains difference between them. (Had 15 grains difference in my last dozen GT's.) The Heritage finish is tough and they are noticably grouping better for me at 20 yards out to 30.  The really nice part was, the modular weight system Black Widow sells works in them to.  Bareshafting went easier/quick to, which I'm sure has to do with better consistency in the CE.


Just thought I'd let you guys know my thoughts.  Seems like there's been a lot of people questioning the GT's.

[PBNJ]

Hey Morning Star, what bow set-up are you using with CE 150's ? I'm thinking about those for my46# Silvertip. What length do you have them also? Thanks, Paul

[Morning Star]

A BW PMAX off the shelf, 54lbs is what I'm pulling at 27 1/2".  I ended up with a 29 1/4" shaft with a 125 grain tip and a 20 grain adapter weight at both ends of the shaft.  Arrow weight is 525 grains.

[BMOELLER]

Thats all I shoot even when I shot wheels.  IMO the best shaft going. And I found mine to weigh within 2 grains apiece.

[Shawn Leonard]

MorningStar unless you are using awful hevy feathers and nocks the aroow cannot weigh that much. I shoot the same shaft at 29.5"s and 175 grains up front and they weigh around 490. 295 for shaft 50 grain insert,125 head,20 grains for feathers and nock, even if ya cap dip them a couple times 510 or so is the most ya get. Out of the 46# Schaffer you will need at least 225 up front and a 29.5" or 30" shaft for good flight with a 28" draw. Shawn

[The Gray Fox]

This thread highlights the fact that the "identical settup" can shoot differently for as few as two shooters, probably based simply on how they tune or shoot their bows.  My brother and I have matching old Hoyt TD-3 49# hunter bows and he shoots much heavier shafts than I can ever make fly decently at the same draw length.  I've never been able to figure it out, but stuff happens, I guess.

[Longbowwally]

My CE Heritage 150's, cut 29" with a 200 grain point weigh 570 grains. I weigh mine with a digital scale so I'm sure its correct...They shoot perfectly out of my 52 - 55 pound bows....They are not indestructible but they're pretty tough....

[Shawn Leonard]

How can that be? I am sorry but it can't! They weigh 10 grains per inch 29"s comes to 290 grains add insert,nock and feathers, which I will give ya 40 grains which is too much and your 200 grain point and you are still at 530 grains. Wally check your scale!     By the way this is according to the manufacturer and my scales verify that. Shawn

[katman]

What insert are you guys putting in the front to get that weight, stock or brass. It must be brass to get that weight or your scale is in error, Shawn is right on.

[R.D.]

I just put a Heritage 250 on the digital scale. Cut 30 1/4", Bohning signature nock, 3 5" feathers, wrapped and crested with 100 grain brass insert and 145 grain field point...

               632 grains

[Apex Predator]

My 150s weigh 565.  31" 200 grain point.

[JOKER]

This is strange, I'm with Shawn on this one. I am shooting cx heritage 150's cut to 28.5", standerd inserts, 125gr point, 5" shield feathers and they weith 460gr on my reloading balence scale. They shoot great out of my 53#@27" super shrew and 52#@27" MOAB.  Steve

[FAIRCHASE]

Well here goes, 150 CX Heritage, cut to 29"with 100gr brass insert(add 1/4"for insert) three 5" feathers/7" wrap & 125gr broadhead=565 grains
shaft=      290gr
insert=     100gr                      WIDOW
point=      125gr             (27"draw)SAV 52#s @
feathers=    12.5gr                    27"
nock=         8.5
wrap + blood + sweat + tears + throw in some glue=         29gr = 565 grains I hate it when my math don't work. OH WELL>>>>-----Regards---->

[Longbowwally]

I was working from memory on my 150's weight so I rechecked with my scale and they weigh 546 grains. They are 29", with 200 grain points. I think this is in line with most of the weights listed here....

[James Wrenn]

That sounds right Wally.My 250s with the same 29" setup weigh 562gns.

[BigHink66]

My 250's are cut at 30.5" with 100gr pdp inserts 125 gr. point reflective cap wraps weigh 620 grains.

Morning Star,

You are correct about the CE though, they are head and shoulders about the Gold Tips, at least in durability.

[Shawn Leonard]

Wally, that still is high, they are 10 grains per inch. That is 290 and 200 poin weight is 490 and feathers and inserts and nock are no more than 40 grains for 530. I just did one up to your specs and with all CX componenets and it weighs 524 grains with 3 5" shields. I agree 25 grains is close in traditional. Shawn

[Morning Star]

I weighed the arrows again, they were 505 grains.  Must of looked at the scale wrong the first time, it is the balance type.  Also forgot to mention the nock adapter was in there to.

293 grains of shaft.
125 grain tip weight
20 grain nock adapter
15 grain RPS
40 grains in weight adapters
The other 12 grains would be in the glue, 5" feathers, and plastic nock.

How's that for precise?

   

[Longbowwally]

Shawn - Sorry but no, my weights are correct...I didn't want to get into such detail but it seems you're interested in that kind of stuff so here goes...
You're comparing apples to oranges...You don't really know my specs and thats why you don't come up with the same numbers as I do...
Some differences in my specs versus your specs....I use fletch tape....I use 5.5" high back shield feathers....I have two sets of cresting on my arrows with about 6 coats of paint on each one....I'm using Easton nocks instead of the CX nocks...Myabe I use a little more glue on my inserts than you do...
All of this can easily make up the 22 grain difference in our weights...
I have an idea....Lets drop this nit pickiness and go do something fun like shoot some arrows or something....All these number are giving me a headache    .....