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snow leopard
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wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 03:36:00 PM »
i did a search on the site pertaining to this topic, and came up empty. i am asking for opinions from those who have used these 2 heads in an attempt to reach a decision on which head to use for spring turkey, and do not wish to spark any controversy. so, this being said, what would your preference be, and thankyou for any input.
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dbishop
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 03:45:00 PM »
Well, I probably wont be much help because I have not gotten to shoot anything with either one yet. But I will say I have spent a lot of time sharpening each one and although I can get them both extremely sharp, it was easier with the woodsman. Also, the woodsman is a little closer to the 3:1 ratio a lot of people like. The snuffer is a little shorter in relation to its width. The both seem to fly well out of my bows. For turkey, I would not think it would make a hill of beans. You might want to use heavier heads just because they are not vented and may be quieter. I don't know if the heavier snuffers are vented or not.
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 03:48:00 PM »
What is your setup ? How many pounds you shooting ? Lots of folks use the 160gr Snuffers on birds. If you are shooting lots of weight the WW would probably blow right thru. Most like the arrow to stay in the bird if I am not mistaken.
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 04:20:00 PM »
Any sharp BH penetrating and hitting the dixie cup sized 'quick death zone' will do.
The key is to have a set-up and shot placement which will immobilize the bird as quickly as possible.
Size does matter in significantly improving the recovery rate.
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snow leopard
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 04:27:00 PM »
they would be shot thru a 50# longbow, arrows spined 50-53.
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 04:36:00 PM »
I would highly recommand the WW. I shot a 50lb 'curve, had trouble pushing the big snuffer. So I switched to the WW. Have had great penetrattion (on many many deer).....with many complete pass throughs.
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mnbearbaiter
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 05:16:00 PM »
The 160 Snuffer is an awesome head for turkey! I like its larger cutting swath, cuz a turkey is a tough animal/target for a trad bowhunter! Small vital zone, i have missed it before when a turkey took a step forward and i got a gut shot instead! Recovered bird easily, feathers, and a "Good" bloodtrail for a turkey!
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brian brooks
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 05:53:00 PM »
I have shot and killed turkeys with both,and had pass-thru on every turkey with both.Right now i,m partial to woodsmans,for deer,but the snuffer does blow a bigger hole which i like on the turkeys.That being said i would prefer snuffers on turkeys.Been thinking about a rubber washer behind the head to maybe avoid shooting through them.I,m shooting with 55# out of the best bow i've ever owned,a TallTines
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 06:43:00 PM »
Snuffer, they just keep on bleeding!Been using them since 1976, with no penetration problems!
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Morning Star
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 07:26:00 PM »
160 Snuffer all the way. The 160 head does alot of damage and gives a better chance of the arrow staying in the bird, which can be very important at times.
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 07:35:00 PM »
snuffers...havent had a bird go over 20 yds with one yet
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 07:43:00 PM »
They are both great, but I kept my snuffers and sold all my WW. When penetration is a "concern" I grab my 2 blade Abowyer or 2 blade Zephyr broadheads.
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Ken Taylor
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 07:56:00 PM »
I have used Woodsmans 125 gr. to kill some stuff but they were not heavy enough for me for different reasons.
I use the 160 gr. Snuffers to kill a lot of stuff.
The last animal I killed this season was with a woodsman elite 190 gr.... I love them.
We don't have those big flying lizards up here but I would use 160 gr. Snuffers on them.
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snow leopard
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 08:10:00 PM »
thanks very much for all the responses. at this point, i'm leaning toward the 160 grain snuffer, but a little concerned if a 50# bow will handle them. thanks again.
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Don Stokes
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 08:28:00 PM »
Snow, I wouldn't hesitate to use the Snuffer. 50# is plenty. I sometimes use them with a 40# bow.
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greg fields
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 08:34:00 PM »
I like the 160's myself, but penetration, at least on deer can be a concern IMO....
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 08:35:00 PM »
I have only shot one turkey with a bow and it Was a snuffer. Sure did the job.
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Don Stokes
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 09:04:00 PM »
I've killed a number of deer with 160 Snuffers, with bows from 50 to 65#, and penetration has always been fine. Never lost one with the Snuffer.
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kadbow
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 13, 2010, 10:07:00 PM »
160 snuffer for turkeys.
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Re: wensel woodsman vs. snuffer
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December 14, 2010, 12:39:00 AM »
I've used both heads and had good penetration with them. I've been lucky enough to kill a couple moose with a snuffer. With one moose, I had a complete pass through. I also had a complete pass through on a brown bear with a woodsmen. I would not hesitate to use a snuffer with your set up (especially for deer or turkeys). Best of luck.
Chuck
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