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Author Topic: Tired of replacing wood bows!  (Read 2625 times)

Offline Zradix

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #80 on: December 16, 2010, 05:03:00 PM »
I'd love to see a picture of your bow storage area.
Maybe someone could spot a possible problem.
Not trying to be nosey..just trying to help you out.
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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #81 on: December 16, 2010, 07:41:00 PM »
Could be he is twisting the bow when he draws, either right hand or left, will the throw the bow off track.  The only thing that would cause this, other than physical pressure, would be exposure to extreme temps.  I have bows that have been in use for 60 years and have only had one break and that was another person twisting on it.  This fellow needs a reverse handled Howard Hill Tembo or Big Five, with a straight grip, 64" to more than match his 26" draw, and pay close attention to getting the bow into the hand without torquing and make certain that the release fingers are equal pressure on the string during the straight back part of the draw with a split finger standard draw.  He says he is trying to use Hill form, it works best with a Hill bow.  i have been known to torque up a grip on recurves shooting Hill style to the point of lifting the arrow off the shelf.

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #82 on: December 16, 2010, 08:05:00 PM »
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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #83 on: December 17, 2010, 02:11:00 AM »
Chris I have a 60# set of limbs on my Gamemaster2 you can have that bow for a while.......if you happen to blow up those limbs I have another set, so no worries! It's 58" long

I have never been able to figure out why your bows blow up, you always have plenty of weight for arrows and I've never noticed any torque when you shoot. i was thinking that maybe the nocks don't fit right? I have no idea.....

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #84 on: December 17, 2010, 06:22:00 AM »
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Originally posted by vermonster13:
Black swan takedowns have no wood in them unless ordered that way. Aluminum riser, carbon and foam core limbs with phenolic wedges.
Thanks for the clarification

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #85 on: December 17, 2010, 06:23:00 AM »
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Originally posted by thewal2:
Hey,

Question...could it be that he had 2 bows that were 48amo that blew up because short bows cant handle that much poundage?  

I have heard of the mag48 blowing up on 29 inch draws but a 26?  Weird...maybe you are measuring your draw length from the wrong place?  an arrow rest in 2.3 to 3 inches long if you measured from the back and not the front you would lose 3 inches... 29 inch draw on a mag48 blowing up makes more sence.

Maybe I am wrong I dont know...?????
Thanks for thinking it through like that but no...I am a true 26"

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #86 on: December 17, 2010, 06:29:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Jeff Strubberg:
If you are breaking laminated wood bows, you are doing something seriously wrong.  There are laminated wood bows seeing daily service that are pushing 60 years old.

I'm not taking shots at you, just pointing out that the wood isn't the problem, and leaving wood behind probably isn't going to fix the issue.
I think that you have to be correct in your assessment.
This is why I am trying to find something that will take whatever I am doing   :rolleyes:  
I have been shooting competitively (on and off) for years and hunt yearly....nobody has ever seen whatever it is that I may be doing wrong   :(  
While I have been a practicing educator in archery for over 20 years, I dont claim to know everything and that's why I came here.    ;)

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #87 on: December 17, 2010, 06:31:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Two Arrows:
I may be completely wrong but, if you are shooting that much and unstringing your bow daily, I could see where that would be putting stress on the limb tips. I think if you are shooting daily, maybe it would be better to leave the bow strung.   :dunno:  
I have thought this in the past too.
This is why I went to a stringer some time back.

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #88 on: December 17, 2010, 06:33:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
I dont know what the problem might be but I do think there is a striking coincidence that the bows all seem to break on the upper limb.
I would have to agree that the upper limbs are telling me something but I gave alot to the fact that I shoot three under.

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #89 on: December 17, 2010, 06:35:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Don Stokes:
Divecon from Australia had a similar problem with excessive breakage. Don't know if he figured it out or not- I sent him a link to this thread.
Thank you!!   :clapper:

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #90 on: December 17, 2010, 06:37:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Bowwild:
I leave my shooters strung all the time. I called the Widow folks about this (only one of mine is a widow) and they've left bows strung for more than 20 years with zero impact on the bow. Stringing and unstringing event with a bowstringer (the only way) is far more risky than leaving the bow strung.

If I thought I could only shoot my recurves 27 times per day -- I'd run from traditional equipment as fast as I could (with great regret) and call up the fellow who bought my compound.  I can't imagine it matters at all, within a person's physical limits, how many times they shoot these bows.
This is a helpful bit of information for me and I believe that I will (in the future) leave them strung

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #91 on: December 17, 2010, 06:38:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Zradix:
looking back I see you mention this before Mr. Jones. He did reply in a rack with a forced air heating system and what sounded like controlled humidity....you could certainly be on to something
To everyone who mentioned this...I think there has to be something to this.
I will use my sling psychrometer today and see whats up   :cool:

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #92 on: December 17, 2010, 06:41:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Skipmaster1:
Chris I have a 60# set of limbs on my Gamemaster2 you can have that bow for a while.......if you happen to blow up those limbs I have another set, so no worries! It's 58" long

I have never been able to figure out why your bows blow up, you always have plenty of weight for arrows and I've never noticed any torque when you shoot. i was thinking that maybe the nocks don't fit right? I have no idea.....
Hey guy!...long time no hear   :)  
Hows the season progressing?...are there any deer left down there?!    :biglaugh:  

Thanks buddy for the offer but right now I am doing more looking than shooting.
I've still got 2 mambas left so it's not over yet   :nono:

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #93 on: December 17, 2010, 06:43:00 AM »
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Originally posted by pavan:
Could be he is twisting the bow when he draws, either right hand or left, will the throw the bow off track.  The only thing that would cause this, other than physical pressure, would be exposure to extreme temps.  I have bows that have been in use for 60 years and have only had one break and that was another person twisting on it.  This fellow needs a reverse handled Howard Hill Tembo or Big Five, with a straight grip, 64" to more than match his 26" draw, and pay close attention to getting the bow into the hand without torquing and make certain that the release fingers are equal pressure on the string during the straight back part of the draw with a split finger standard draw.  He says he is trying to use Hill form, it works best with a Hill bow.  i have been known to torque up a grip on recurves shooting Hill style to the point of lifting the arrow off the shelf.
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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #94 on: December 17, 2010, 06:46:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Zradix:
Botech...

Is there a vent pretty close to where you keep your top limb tips in the rack?

Just grabbing straws here...maybe a chem room? cleaning solutions that may be venting. Or maybe pool chems...?
I run a humidistat on the furnace.
But...I am not in  that house anymore and do not have that control now.
Thats why I am going to check the present location today.
Thanks alot for keeping up with this thread...
You have really tried to help me figure this out all the way through these pages.
Thanks again   :)

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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #95 on: December 17, 2010, 07:28:00 AM »
Hey lads, I must strongly disagree with some of you here, regarding the daily unstringing of bows being a cause of limb failure. I always unstring my bows after each use, and haven't had a problem. Using a good stringer correctly, I do not believe that unstringing regularly can present a problem.
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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #96 on: December 17, 2010, 07:31:00 AM »
And further, with regard to humidity, we pretty much run in the nineties nearly all year 'round, again with no problems.
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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #97 on: December 17, 2010, 07:40:00 AM »
There may well be a scientific reason why your bows are dying, and I hope the puzzle gets solved.

However remote the probabilities, you may just be experiencing exceptionally poor luck.

I'd be interested to see how a Hill or Black Widow (or similar) would fare for you. Although not indestructable, they are quite tough.
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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #98 on: December 17, 2010, 07:46:00 AM »
Okay, I know I've posted way too much here on this thread, but please endure one more of my random thoughts: As I said, I live in a pretty hot and damp and humid part of the world; I am fairly liberal with the super glue bottle whenever I chance to give one of my beauties a gouge or major scratch. Guitars here are known to let go in the same way when scratched enough to allow the humidity into the lams.
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Re: Tired of replacing wood bows!
« Reply #99 on: December 17, 2010, 07:48:00 AM »
Maybe you can find someone who can make you an Osage bow 66" to 68" in your weight range backed with bamboo or sinew.

The size of a piece of hedge that would be needed to build such a bow could be used as a pry pole for moving boulders.

I'm not saying it can't or won't break but if I were a betting man, I'd put my money on the "sage"..lol

Good luck with your future bows.

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