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Offline redant 60/65

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Hand shock hill style bows
« on: December 21, 2010, 07:37:00 PM »
Hand shock hill style bows
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 07:49:00 PM »
I will not answer this because of the variables in form and individual bows, one can come to no real definitive answer with just a vote.  It can cause a misleading and unprovable dialog.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 07:53:00 PM »
I have a 78# Cheeta that doesn't have hand shock...don't know about any other models...didn't vote.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 07:55:00 PM »
What pavan said.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 08:04:00 PM »
I never understood the handshock thing.Grip it right with a heavy arrow and enjoy. I love them.RC
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 08:16:00 PM »
Some have more than others, some can be tuned for less....too many differences bow to bow to really take the poll.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 08:22:00 PM »
I don't feel handshock in my HH Half Breed,I'm a long time longbow shooter.I think some are more sensitive to handshock then others.I shoot a padded loop 8125 string and arrows around 10 gpp.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 08:24:00 PM »
it's pure physics - longbows with curves to the limbs (r/d) will typically be smoother releasing than 'hill style' longbows with reflex, back set or plain ol' straight limbs.  

typically, you can reduce or pretty much eliminate the 'shock' via form and heavier projectiles - just like rc sez.  

i also agree with pavan that this kinda poll will only obfuscate and mislead, to some degree.

i've had a gaggle of hill longbows over the decades, and i'm fairly good at shooting such bows without much, if no shock at all.  it's all in the grip/form and heavy shafts.  after awhile it all becomes second nature.

... and then there are some folks who will make themselves believe that their hills ain't the least bit shocky at all when compared to most any r/d longbow ... and that there really is such a thing as the tooth fairy.   :saywhat:      :laughing:
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 08:41:00 PM »
I didn't vote ...
Hill style bows certainly have more of a "feel " to them when shot compared to many other style of bows around .
Is it, for want of a better word,  handshock ? probably ...
does it bother me ?
Not at all .
 If it did i wouldn't have two on order and 7 sitting on my rack.
As has been posted ad infinitum on this forum , there are ways and measures to help with any perceived discomfort ...
low stretch strings , heavy arrows etc

I feel the shot more with my Hill style bows but it isn't the discomfort that many speak of . In fact they are without doubt my favourite bow around for hunting and i find them an absolute joy to shoot and tote afield.

If the 'bump' at the shot bothers you don't shoot 'em and look at some r/d bows perhaps.
Leaves the bowyers more time to build mine .
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 09:07:00 PM »
What Ben said! I have shot Hill's for the past several years, and I think they're the sweetest shootin' bows out there. I really think it comes down to two things...
  1. How you grip them. You can't shoot them like you shoot a recurve.
  2. Some people are just more sensitive. It's like firearms. Recoil bothers some more than others. When I touch off a .44 I think, "dang!... that was cool!", while some people just close their eyes and cringe.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2010, 09:19:00 PM »
Voted, but my only Hill style is a Northern Mist Shelton. I have shot a few Hills and have not  noticed hand shock. I did read Dick W's article on how grip them.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2010, 09:23:00 PM »
For thoses that didn't want to vote, I put (don't no). But from what I have read you should of said no. I put a poll out just to get some feed back. Thanks    :notworthy:
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2010, 09:25:00 PM »
You either like them or you don't.  I understand that you can reduce the handshock by changing your hand position/grip, but that results in an uncomfortable and unnatural feel for me.  That puts me in the "not-for-me" camp.

If you have to write an article on how to grip something, it is more complicated than I want it to be.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2010, 09:39:00 PM »
This should save me time and increase my snarkiness per unit of effort ratio.

 

I feel better.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2010, 09:43:00 PM »
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This should save me time and increase my snarkiness per unit of effort ratio.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2010, 09:46:00 PM »
All my Hill bows from Howard Hill Archery have hand shock. I'm not put off by this but I don't say it does not exist. It's the nature of the beast and not a big deal. By the time any shock is registered the arrow is clear of the bow. It does not affect accuracy.

I've never felt hand shock was a bad thing at all. It doesn't bother me.

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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2010, 09:51:00 PM »
You guys hit this one on the head.A man needs to pick up a heavy arrow,draw it back,send it off and deal with it.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2010, 09:55:00 PM »
My old Wesley Special was an absolute dream to shoot.  Whoever gets handshock from one of them must not know how to hold it properly, or are so convinced from listening to others they imagine the shock in their heads and are then sold on the whole idea, even though it is non existant.  Maybe it is because I shot a very heavy arrow (51# @ 26" bow and I shot a 604 grain laminated birch arrow).  I would guess if you shot an extreamly light arrow there would be shock, but that is going to come with any bow in that case.
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2010, 10:09:00 PM »
Sorry , Rob I would have to disagree with everything you said in your post - it's exactly the opposite .
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Re: Hand shock hill style bows
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2010, 10:35:00 PM »
So what is the question?
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