Lots of good info here, RC and KY TJ, I agree with you both, depending on hunting situation. I tend to hunt more like TJ, on small spots of private land, and just hunt travel routes, like deer hunting, actually same ones, as they use the same ones here in SE Ky where I live. I have taken 10 trad birds, last one was on the ground in a ghillie, slipped up on a whole flock, using terain, they were in a feeding frenzie, eating fox grapes, and I shot the closest one, had his back turned to me, a #20 gobbler with 7 inch beard. I believe the ghillie to be the utltimate camo.