Howard Hill long bow and Carbon arrows?

[Davesea]

I am shooting Sitka Spruce and Doug fir and I am just trying Aluminum for low maintenance (compared to wood) which perform great on the walk through course.  I want to spend time shooting arrows not fixing them so I would like to give Carbon a try too, for everyday shooting on the walk through.

I have a Howard Hill 68" Big Five that pulls 48# at 28".  My draw is 28".

Would HH shooters please post your stats on you HH and the Carbon arrow that performs the BEST for you.

Thanks
Dave
Seattle

[customcrester]

I don't shoot a HH anymore but i do still shoot a longbow.I'm shooting Arrow Dynamic lite's out of my 50# tomahawk longbow and they shoot great.They have a wide spine range of 35# to 55# and you can just cut to your length and shoot.

[Bill Skinner]

Personally, I have never been able to get carbons to fly right from my Hills.  There is also the problem with carbons being somewhat lighter than wood, especially in the lower poundage arrows.  That being said, I have seen plenty of people at 3-D shoots using them with perfect flight.  I never invested the time to tweak them with heavier points, internal weights, and all the other things to get them to fly right.  I grab every Micro Flite of the correct spine that I can though.  Bill

[lpcjon2]

Isn't that one of the ten commandments:Thy shall not use anything but wood with a Hill.      

[Wannabe1]

Oooooh Boooooy! Here it comes! I had a thread similar to this some time back so, take what ever comes with a grain of salt.    :D      

GingivitisKahn should be along. I believe he shoots carbons and they fly real well for him.

[Raging Water]

Originally posted by lpcjon2:
Isn't that one of the ten commandments:Thy shall not use anything but wood with a Hill.            

Yeah, I am in this group as well. I just got thru shooting carbons and woodies out of my Hill today. Properly spined woodies just fly great out of a hill. Every time I shot a carbon it was no better.

Now, on other bows, carbons make a big difference to me. But for Hills, I'd vote woodies all the way.

Matt

[KPaul]

MFX s fly well with my Redman. Woodies properly spined were no different.

Redman  68" 53# @28. my draw length is 29"

[5deer]

mfx  

[JRY309]

I shoot CX Heritage 90's out of my HH Half Breed 58#@28 drawn to 27",they are 29" with custom fitted 50 gr. brass insert(42 grs. now)and 175 gr. point with a weight of around 540 grs. and AD Trad Lites at 30" with a 175 gr. point,they are 515 grs.. These both fly great out of my Howard Hill.

[RC]

From a 52@27 Hill I shot 35/55 gold tips with 300 grains in the nose. They shot good.RC

[Ben Maher]

I have trouble with carbons and my Hills because I often use a back quiver and dislike overly long arrows with my 27" draw length. It makes them hard to get out of the quiver etc .

I have had luck with Gold Tips and Arrow Dynamics though .
I mainly use wood and currently have a secret love affair with 2016's ...
However ... carbons will fly well with any bow when tuned properly .

fyi ... i used Stu Millers calculator and it was right on the money .

[Tater]

66" Halfbreed 60# @ 28" I usually shoot wood but I tried some of my ICS Hunter Carbon arrows I have for another bow and they flew like darts, 29.5" 100gr brass insert and 150gr point.

[Hot Hap]

The earthquake was in Pakistan. Hap

[Nate Steen .]

to give carbon arrows a fair shake,  I shot them the same length I shot my woodies...27 - 27 1/4 back of point.  I did have to adjust the tip weight a little to get the spine correct,  but that's all.   It is one of my pet peeves to see guys shoot arrows that are 2 - 4 inches too long for their draw because they think that is the only way to tune arrow flight.

When was the last time you saw an Olympic archer shooting arrows wayyy longer than their draw?  They draw right to the head...no wasted arrow length.  It is very doable with a longbow as well.  Also, this keeps the arrow length easy to withdraw from a backquiver....Even though I shoot wood exclusively now,  I used to shoot aluminum years ago, and tried carbons and never had to shoot overlength arrows.

[Joe Subler]

Arrow Dynamics lite out of my Cheetah with 235 grains up front.  Great flight!!

Joe

[Ben Maher]

Nate , i was doing this a fair while back and did not have access to some of the lower spined carbnons available now.
Also , once I had used heavier head weights to get them to fly ok they were to heavy in weight compared to my firs and cedars that are around 500-520gns at my 52# draw . They tended to weight in at 620gns [ grizzlystix] or so ... roving ain't no fun for me with such heavy arrows !

If I ever get the desire to use Carbons again some of the newer 35-55 spines sound just right .

[Nate Steen .]

Ben,

I never tried the grizzlysticks,  just the gold tips or arrow dynamics.  I did have to experiment with different spines, as I don't think they all shoot the same depending on manufacturer.  But I finetuned them with tipweight, just like I do my woodies....

[Ben Maher]

Nate ,
which arrow dynamics did you use ?
I had maybe up a spine too high to cut short but they were a great arrow nonetheless ?

What tip weight approx did you end up using ?

[Overspined]

I can't get carbons to fly right and consistently either. I stick w wood and a little aluminum

[Nate Steen .]

Ben,  I don't remember. I do remember that I never had to put any steel or other adapters up front, just heavier heads.  I've been a woodie person all my life, but shot alums for several years to see what was so great about them back in the 80s....lol.  I shot the soda straw carbons when they first came out and they shot well at 27", but I disliked the feel of the tiny shaft.  I last shot carbons about 5 or 6 years ago and I think they've changed their spine availablities somewhat since then. As long as trees are grown,  I'll be a woodie shooter...but I don't like to form opinions on tackle without giving it a fair, personal trial.