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Topic: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6) (Read 2087 times)
magnus
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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Reply #60 on:
January 23, 2011, 08:15:00 AM »
One thing I do is weigh them one time before I put nocks on and any shafts that are out of the weight range get another coat of sealer. A quick and easy way to get your shafts closer to the same weight.
TW what did you use to force dry the shafts just a fan?
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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Reply #61 on:
January 23, 2011, 11:39:00 AM »
Bud B, I will weigh the shafts again upon completion of the arrows and post results. Do you want the total with or with out the tips on?
Magnus, I thought about another coat on the lighter ones to bring them a little closer to the others but, I was still in the 10gr range so, I opted not to. I turned the heat up in my shop room and put a little blower fan I have to help speed up drying time. First time I tried that and it worked pretty good.
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magnus
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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Reply #62 on:
January 23, 2011, 11:53:00 AM »
TW. Good tip! Yeah 10 grains is ideal. I was just referring to shafts at 20 or more. Can't wait to see them finished.
Matt
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Wannabe1
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 01:57:00 PM »
To keep the post moving, I decided to go ahead and make up our test shaft. Since it will be just that, I didn't care if the fletching was going to be a different color than the rest. I set up my J-8 fletcher and using Fletch Tite Platnum (it adheres real well to the urethane) I begin the fletching process. Ensuring that my nock is in the correct position I do the cock feather first. Usually this is where it would be a different color if you like that.
Then comes the first hen feather:
And now the second hen feather:
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Wannabe1
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 02:02:00 PM »
Once my feathers are attached, I put a little drop of glue at the tip and end of each feather so that they don't get snagged when passing the shelf, going through targets etc.
If done correctly and with the correct clamp, you get a nice helical fletch. By the way, these are 5", left wing sheild cut feathers.
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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Reply #65 on:
January 23, 2011, 02:15:00 PM »
As you can tell, this is a "Plain Jane" arrow. As one gets better, you can get as fancy as you like. But, for a practice/hunting shaft with no frills, this will work just fine.
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Ron+dog
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 02:24:00 PM »
looks good TW
you know more then you let on gonna have to change that screen name from wannabe1 to are1
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 02:50:00 PM »
So you used a right wing fletcher with left wing feathers. My question is does the feather take on a right twist? I have some lefties but my fletcher is a righty. Thanks for letting me know.
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mmisciag
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 02:57:00 PM »
I think it was a left wing clamp. The word "right" was used to mean correct.
If done right and with the "çorrect" clamp, you get a nice helical fletch.
At least that is how I took it.
Martin
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 03:21:00 PM »
Jeremy, Martin is correct. Sorry for my wording, I have corrected my statement so there is no confusion. :D
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SpankyNeal
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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Reply #70 on:
January 23, 2011, 03:29:00 PM »
Looks great TW...well done!
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 03:33:00 PM »
Ok, here's where things can get tricky. You will find your own method as you delve into your project. I use a "Cut Off Saw" from Harbor Freight to cut my shafts. It works on wood, aluminum and carbon. I cut my shaft so that my 145gr field tip is 30.5" back of point. This is my starting point to get good flight. I will trim down after shooting depending on how it flies. Right now, arrow is 590gr total.
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 03:56:00 PM »
Ok, here's the arrow shot out of my 68", 51# @ 29" Tembo. Shot is approximately 10yds. It flew pretty good but, I think I can come down a 1/2" on length. Any thoughts out there? "Click The Photo"
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 04:01:00 PM »
I can't tell much from the shot, but I like to take it 1/4" at a time...that's just me. Maybe back up some if you can and see what it does.
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Ken "Spanky" Neal
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65" 56# "El Tigre"
67" 47# "Quiet Places"
66" 57# "Lionheart"
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Wannabe1
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 04:11:00 PM »
Roger that, I'll go back to about 15yds.
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 05:06:00 PM »
Ok, I backed out to about 15yds and arrow still seemed weak. I did the 1/4" thing and still ended up coming down to 30" b.o.p. Arrow really straightened up in flight at this length. I shot it a few times to make sure at approx. 18yds. That's the max for my back yard. It flew great so, I glued the head on and shot 10 times. It was hitting almost dead center every shot. Arrow came out at 582gr. Don't mind the sound before the arrow hits. It's not my bow but, my 4yr old son hitting the table on our back porch. :D Click Photo.
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Wannabe1
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 05:24:00 PM »
I apologize for the poor video but, was trying to show just how straight these shafts come if you use Douglas Fir. I did not have to straighten one shaft out of the whole dozen.
Our finished arrow at 30" b.o.p. 145grn field tip and 582 grains total.
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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Reply #77 on:
January 23, 2011, 06:03:00 PM »
Hello, anybody out there?
In case anyone's interested, I shot the same arrow out of my 68", 51# @ 29" HH Owl and got great flight also. :D I believe these will work.
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magnus
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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January 23, 2011, 06:22:00 PM »
Oh yeah Gotta love those surewoods! They are deffinetly my favorite shaft. I will use others for small game and stumping but they are my only deer shaft! I just wish I live close by to them too! Lol.
On your video. It might be my phone but that was the clearest video I've seen on that site! Thanks
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SpankyNeal
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Re: If you want fancy, don't look here.....Arrow Build Along (Update PG6)
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Reply #79 on:
January 23, 2011, 07:41:00 PM »
Yep, now that shot did look perfect! Congrats I think you've got her dialed in...you'll know for sure when you mount the BH's!
Great job!
Spanky
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67" 47# "Quiet Places"
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