Best way to secure brass inserts to AD shafts?

[capt eddie]

I am going to secure some 100 gr brass inserts to some AD Traditional shafts.  What is the best way to do it.?   Hot glue. super glue gel?  Thanks for the help.

[JrsyBowHunter]

i always use 2 part epoxy when installing inserts in carbon shafts, and hot melt for aluminum

[$bowhunter$]

Originally posted by JrsyBowHunter:
i always use 2 part epoxy when installing inserts in carbon shafts, and hot melt for aluminum

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[Huntschool]

If the arrow is the way ya want it use one of the more permanent glues.  I like a glue that softens with heat so I CAN change things if I want.

[leatherneck]

I've always used Goat Tuff glue on my AD's. Never had any issues.

[joe skipp]

I always used JB Weld 6 hr cure...

[stalkin4elk]

I've had Goat Tuff fail 3x so far. Never any failures with JB or Easton epoxy.

[cyred4d]

Two part epoxy works the best for me.

[BigJim]

We use Quick Stick hot melt on thousands of shafts. All reports of lost inserts have ceased. Tough, Cheap, and reversible.

bigjim

[capt eddie]

Big ould you explain how to apply the glue?

[Steelhead]

I got some hot melt from B. Jim and like it alot.

I like to be able to remove the insert in case I wanna use a different weight or style of insert of maybe even cut an arrow a tad shorter.

Or if you wanna sale/trade the arrows you have for a different shaft it allows the guy to remove the insert to shorten the shaft or use a different insert that works for him.

Its good stuff Jim has.Better than other hot melts I have used!

Its nice to able to heat the insert a bit as well (being careful to not overheat with carbon)with a broadhead attached in case you need to turn the broadhead a few times while in the shaft to get it to spin perfect and or allign your heads horizontil or vertical to your preference.

[BigJim]

I have done a video on how to use the quick stick but don't have it on my site yet. May have to do some editing.

I get an old shaft and heat the back of the cube and push the shaft in to make it like a lolli pop. I then set out a doz. inserts and heat the block as I rotate it. Take the inserts one at a time and roll the bottom 1/4" or so in the glue and set them down on a piece of wood or hard plastic (something that can take the heat). When done, you can put away the glue and re heat each insert one at a time being careful not to overheat them. Twist while inserting them into the shaft to spread glue as you insert.

When the inserts are seated, I let them cool before picking off the excess glure, you you may wipe the with a rag if you prefer. you may shoot them by the time you put in a point and get to the bag.
good luck, bigjim

[JRY309]

I think the key is to properly prep the shaft.I etch or scratch the inside of the shaft and scratch up the brass insert also,and then clean everything with alcohol.I use a two-part 24 hr epoxy for inserts in my carbons.I haven't lost an insert and can get them back out if I need to.

[capt eddie]

This is a differant type of glue then the the regular heat up ferral glue?

[customcrester]

I use Insert Iron and it works great.

[capt eddie]

What is Quick stick and Insert Iron?

[BigJim]

I haven't cleaned a shaft since I started using Quick Stick. It is not like ferr-L-Tite. Ferr-L-Tite is good for wood and aluminum, but Quick Stick is great for all of it. It stays pliable and the bond won't break when  you hit something hard like the others will.

thanks, bigjim

[stalkin4elk]

Big Jim thanks for the Quick Stick advise as I would prefer it over epoxy if it works as well as you say. Bad experience with a weak bond from a different hot melt left two broadheads inside a Block target.Is the Quick Stick strong enough for BHs in Block style targets as well?

[customcrester]

Insert Iron is a adhesive that creates a high impact,shock resistant,heat reversible bond that welds insert and outserts to all types of shafts.It cures in 24 hours and I get it from 3 rivers.

[BigJim]

stalking4elk. I shoot my big Jim Broadheads (lots of surface area) into everything like old Mckenzies(they are extra hard) and foam. Shoot them into the ground from a treestand and don't have any problems.

I did a video of me shooting 4 arrows into a tree with my 82lb bow. I then attempted to pull them out. I had to unscrew 1 and I pulled two out of the tree. Yes, one insert pulled out, but likely in my haste to test this I didn't heat the glue up quite enough when inserting into the shaft. I did however go flying head over heals and landed on my arse. But that took My 325lbs of weight and all I had of strength to do it.
And I didn't clean those shafts either.
By the way, it takes 5 minutes before you can shoot them. less if it is cold out.

Bigjim