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Author Topic: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way  (Read 5673 times)

Offline Bjorn

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2011, 12:09:00 PM »
Good job Rob!    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2011, 12:13:00 PM »
very nice, good idea using the painting tape.

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2011, 12:46:00 PM »
:thumbsup:  keep it up. this is and will be very helpful for future arrow builders   :thumbsup:
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2011, 01:09:00 PM »
Thank you Rob! I plan on trying some surewoods out real soon. This is very helpful!

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 01:13:00 PM »
Thanks for the post...as soon as I finish my carbons I'm going to give woodies a try...Thanks
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2011, 01:26:00 PM »
Future Arrow Whisperer here, Thanks for the post!♠
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2011, 01:43:00 PM »
Number 2 pencil is sharpened and ready for class.  :thumbsup:
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2011, 05:08:00 PM »
i'll do the clear wipes on the unstained shafts first.  put on yer rubber glove(s) a clean 2" to 3" square of 100% white cotton t-shirt, fold over to make a pad, shake the can of min-wax gloss wipe on polyu, pop the top and get the pad wet (not damp and not dripping wet), hold the shaft at where the pointed end will eventually be, wrap the pad a bit around the shaft and twist and wipe from the nock end on down.

 

 

you don't need to wipe right down to the very end of the shaft, unless you require a full 32" arrow.  wipe to within 2" to 3" of the end of the shaft (for up to a 30" long arrow).  hold the freshly wiped shaft by the nock end, push into the foam block for drying.  i do this with just one glove for the wiping hand.

for the stained shafts - hold at the cap end, wipe the foreshaft first and don't go beyond the masking tape!  when done, push each shaft into the foam block.  when all shafts have had their foreshafts wiped with clear, get a fresh new wiping pad, and clear wipe the cap area of the shaft while the shaft is held in the foam block.  too easy!  allow to dry for a few hours.

 

 

 

after the clear dries, *lightly* buff each shaft with 0000 steel wool - use a separate piece of steel wool for each stain color!  lightly rub each shaft with a paper towel - use a separate towel for each stain color!

 

do another clear coat wipe again, as in all of the above.  

after the second wipe dries, for the stained shafts, remove the masking tape that separates the cap from the foreshaft.  lightly steel wool buff the entire shaft, from nock end to point end - no need to be concerned about color bleeding - and lightly paper towel rub down.  notice how the stain colors deepen and look more vibrant as more clear coats are applied.  i loved stained arrows as opposed to opaque painted ones - i just prefer to see the natural wood grain.

do a third wiped on coat of clear.  

three coats of min-wax clear is more than enuf to fully seal the shafts.  i usually go for a fourth coat.  your choice to either leave the last coat glossy or buff down with the steel wool and paper towel for a muted satin finish.

after i'm done with all four coats of clear, next up - glue on the nocks, cut the shafts to your proper draw length, taper for the points, add cresting using sharpie pens (optional).  then on to fletching - we'll do all three flavors of fletches - store bought preshaped, chopped, and burnt - in both three and four fletch configurations.  ALL fletches will be adhered with bohning fletch tape!  then on to pointing up, checking for shaft/point trueness/straightness.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2011, 05:25:00 PM »
I love the grain on the Surewoods. Great follow along Rob.
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Offline Rob DiStefano

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2011, 05:43:00 PM »
yep, and those darker stains really pop out a grainy wood like fir.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2011, 05:57:00 PM »
Thanks for posting this.  I would've never thought of using a block of styrofoam.  Does sticking them into the foam take off some of the stain at the ends?  Where do you get this aniline dye and how long does it take to dry?

I made my first batch a little over a month ago and hung them to dry on a clothesline using clothes pins.  I guess I brushed on too much of the minwax poly stain/sealant with a brush, because they were dripping all over the ground.

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2011, 06:09:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Ed Q:
Thanks for posting this.  I would've never thought of using a block of styrofoam.  Does sticking them into the foam take off some of the stain at the ends?  

probably. don't matter.  remember, all finishing is done with full 32" length shafts!  i'm gonna whack off over 2" for my 29.5" final length arras.
 
Where do you get this aniline dye and how long does it take to dry?

i get the aniline dye stain in powder from  www.reranch.com  - my primary, almost daily use is in staining guitar wood.  it can be mixed with either water or alcohol but i prefer water as wiping it on (as opposed to airbrushing it on - i do that, too) blends it all in better.

I made my first batch a little over a month ago and hung them to dry on a clothesline using clothes pins.  

i also have a 36 pin clothespin drying rack in my shop, but a block of any kinda stiff foam is much easier to use - you always want the drying shaft kept with nock up and pointed end down, to allow any running of finish towards the pointy end.

I guess I brushed on too much of the minwax poly stain/sealant with a brush, because they were dripping all over the ground.

don't use a brush for any kinda finish on arrow shafting - either wipe or dip.  i used to dip and made arrows far too pretty to fly, but wiping is so much easier, faster, cheaper and pretty darn good lookin', too!
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2011, 06:14:00 PM »
Rob, Thank you for a great Tutorial, with new ideas and instruction that is A1. Your pictures and explanations are great and you are helping a lot of us out here. I look forward to the rest of your instruction. Looks like there will be a lot more woodies in our quivers this year! Thanks again!

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2011, 08:57:00 AM »
TTT for a very good tutorial.

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2011, 09:35:00 AM »
very nice for some simple shafts..

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2011, 11:32:00 AM »
Thanks Rob I to intend to start on some woodies
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2011, 11:35:00 AM »
This is definitely bookmark worthy stuff.  Thanks for taking the time to post this.
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2011, 12:22:00 PM »
third coat of clear administered this morning.  fourth coat goes on tonite.  will be ready for the next part of the process tomorrow.  :)
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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2011, 12:50:00 PM »
Thanks again for the info, Rob.

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Re: crafting excellent woodies the easy and cheap way
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2011, 03:34:00 PM »
This should prolly be a sticky.
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