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Author Topic: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....  (Read 352 times)

Offline Terry Green

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New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« on: February 01, 2011, 11:50:00 AM »
I've seen this posted for years on web sites...

"I like to shoot them quartering away to avoid the shield".

I've tried to explain that this is not the case on a shielded boar....So at Solana I got pics of Michael's boar to add to the shot placements thread sticked at the top, so they can do the talking.  

This is a pic of a shielded boar and the location of just how far back the shield goes and that you are not going to avoid the shield by shooting quartering away unless you shoot behind the rib cage, and that is a dicey shot.

     

   

     

Also, if you do shoot quartering away, your are actually increasing the thickness of the shield you have to pass through because you are making the shield thicker by the quartering away angle.

I am not condemning a quartering away shot with this post, I've shot plenty that way.  I'm  just making folks aware that you are not going to avoid the shield.....unless of course you shoot that little soft pocked in the clip posted on the shot placement thread...and that soft spot can be shot broadside as well.
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 11:55:00 AM »
Good stuff Terry.
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 11:56:00 AM »
Thanks Terry   :clapper:
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 12:02:00 PM »
That's thick and that's not even a real big hog.
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 12:08:00 PM »
that sure is thick i guess real sharp 2 bladed heads  should do the trick.
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 12:42:00 PM »
Thanks Terry, very informative as I'm always looking at that anatomy charts of the quarry I intend to be hunting.  Thanks again for the pics, leaving for pig gig Thursday.   :archer2:

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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 12:47:00 PM »
More good 1st hand advice!

Thanks T

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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 12:48:00 PM »
I truly believe the shield is not a penetration problem. It's the wire like hair, thick hide and mud that is the barrier.

The hide on a boar is very tough, but once thru a sharp broadhead shoud have no problem going thru the grissle of the sheild.  It's not created to be bullet proof, but rather the thickness of the shield is the protection.

Last one I killed I demonstrated this to a buddy.

I had him put steady pressure on the shield with a knife. It was a bugger to push thru the hide, but once thru it passed thru the shield like butter.  Then we skinned part of the hide away from the shield and put a knife point to it. It pierced  completly thru like it wasn't even there.

Bottom line is sharp, sharp, sharp broadheads will win the day.

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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 12:56:00 PM »
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Originally posted by JEFF B:
that sure is thick i guess real sharp 2 bladed heads  should do the trick.
Jeff....that sure should be taken into consideration based on folks set up.

I've passed through shields like that and thicker with 4 blades....with 580-630 grain arrows and bow weight ranges from 60 - 70#s.

This info is to enlighten folks to consider their equipment and head choice when facing up to a mature boar that could be heavily shielded.
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 01:02:00 PM »
Good point Robert....caked and hardened mud is a serious consideration...much more than the shield.....and yes, the hide is tuff.

Most of big hogs I've shot, the hair is not that much of threat as most have pretty sparse hair...but that little bit of hair does hold onto the caked mud.

Once you get through the mud and hide, the shield must be passed through with less energy to get to the vitals.  All the pre vital barriers are a consideration.    :thumbsup:
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 01:02:00 PM »
If I recall, that shield went back about 2 inches further than where the incision was made.  It was an eye opener to see that sucker cut open.

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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 01:21:00 PM »
Let me add to what I posted.... I have killed many hogs with a 56-56lb bow at my 29in draw and 515-580gr arrows.  No way, no how would I drop down from that and shoot at a medium sized or bigger boar. I also limit my shots to 20 and under unless I already have an arrow in the pig.

Big sows..no problem.

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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2011, 01:31:00 PM »
WOW!!!
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2011, 01:51:00 PM »
Thanks man, I'll remember that if I ever go hog hunting. Maybe someday.....
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2011, 01:59:00 PM »
You are absolutely correct Mr.Green. The quartering shot is also likely to yield an inferior blood trail.
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2011, 02:35:00 PM »
terry i may be going to texas later this year & im wondering will my 55# widow & skinny carbons (cx edge hunters ) with 150gn ww up front do the job ? total arrow weight is around 535gn .
any advice would be good ,
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2011, 02:48:00 PM »
Graybark uk: getem flying strait and sharp and that set up will do the job.
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »
I have no trouble killing hogs using a 50# ACS CX and a two blade head glued to a cedar or fir shaft (total wt 600 -650 gn).
As long as I put the arrow in the right place the animal dies quickly.     :archer2:

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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2011, 02:54:00 PM »
Looks like Clint Eastwoods 44 round hit that Hog!
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Re: New Hog Shot Placement Shield pics....
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2011, 03:10:00 PM »
the set up works fine , ive had pass through`s on kudu in africa with it .
thanks for the help guy`s
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