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Author Topic: How Much Weight Up Front  (Read 340 times)

Offline 30pointbuck

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How Much Weight Up Front
« on: February 25, 2011, 09:50:00 AM »
I just finished bare shaft tuning my arrows and i have a slight knock right from center which indicates a slight stiff shaft, they are Goldtip
Traditionals 5575 cut at 30 1/2 with 125 gn, FT
how much more weight should i add up front. Would 145 gn ft work or still to stiff. What would you guy's recommend   :archer2:
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Offline Javi

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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 09:55:00 AM »
I normally like 16% - 20% FOC I test both spine and which shoots best..

Get you some 20 grain Gold Tip weights and you can screw them into the back of the insert..
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 10:04:00 AM »
I'd try more than that. Screw on a 200 gr. point and see. Adding 20 grains will likely not make much of a difference so go bigger to see. I've never gone wrong adding more weight than less. My various set-ups carry between 200 and 325 grains up front.....Ryan

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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 10:08:00 AM »
It is hard to say 30 pt but I would definitely start with 145.It is a good idea to keep a variety of weights on hand.You can get some test kits from 3R.I also keep some 5 grain weight washers on hand to fine tune with when I get close.You can add up to three of those before running out of threads.I only use them for tuning or sometimes practice arrows as I like the rear shoulder of the point to seat against the insert,for strength,on my hunting arrows.Anyway,if it is slightly stiff,145 probably would work but be ready to add a little more if you need to.

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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 10:12:00 AM »
Thanks guy's i'll try that.
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 10:13:00 AM »
I suggested 20 grain weights because he said he was already close to being properly spined.. adding 75 or 100 grains will most likely make the shaft to weak and he'll end up having to cut it..

For what it's worth I generally start with a 50 grain weight in the back of the insert.. and go from there in 20 grain increments..
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 10:17:00 AM »
Yeah Javi it's really close to being center but you can just see it's knock is barely to the right of center. They fly sweet with feathers but bare shaft you can just see the tail kick.
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 10:37:00 AM »
Keep in mind,the bare shaft should end up showing slightly weak,as when you fletch them that will stiffen the dynamic spine a little.The final test will be shooting broadheads.

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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 11:05:00 AM »
By 6 field points in every weight you can find and use them everytime you are working with a new setup.  Sometimes the changes will be significant between 20 grains other times you won't make the change you need with 100 grains.  Furthermore, never forget to anchor, anchor, anchor... and play with nock height.
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 12:13:00 PM »
I've found that you can get away with adding a great deal more weight to the front of your arrows than you think possible & still achieve good flight. Maybe it's just me... but it happens time & again.

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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2011, 12:37:00 PM »
weight up front = good!
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2011, 12:46:00 PM »
I'm with Jeff. I can put a 250 gr to 350 gr tip on my gold tips and get great flight. Gold tips are pretty tolerent from what I've seen.
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 01:19:00 PM »
So far the goldtip arrows are the best set of arrows that fly great out of my jaguar at least the G/T Traditionals are.
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 01:49:00 PM »
Hello.i have a blackwidow,[email protected] shoot goldtips 5575,30"1/2,with 3,feathers 5"left wing shield cut, and 145gr field point,and 50gr inserts.MAN and those things fly like darts and hit hard,i get the same flight with ace broad heads of the same weight.Hope my set up could help put u in the right path.GOOD SHOOTIN...
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 01:55:00 PM »
Thanks EL Mejor. I'll certainly give the broadheads a look.
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 04:56:00 PM »
Well i just spine tested my arrows with 150 gn. and Bingo. they are right on the money now. Now i just need to find some 150 gn broadheads to practice with and tune to broadheads, I probably should paper tune but i really don't like paper tuning never did it with the wheel bow's only to set knock point. Which broadheads you all think would fly or tune easier 2,3,4 blade?
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2011, 05:08:00 PM »
I think any will.Big wide broadheads might be more sensitive but I don't think many 150 gr heads would be in that category.If they are mounted straight and true,it should be no problem with any of them.You may be already there.I don't think you need to paper tune at all.Just verify your tune with the broadhead you like.

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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2011, 05:22:00 PM »
Thanks Jim.  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2011, 07:52:00 PM »
Get the lightest shaft you can, and put the heaviest head you can. Ultra light shafts and 300 grain heads.Sorry but I know the answer to this. And have proven it many times.I'm trying to tell you what it will do, Last season 25+ yrds 43# @ 26" 300 grain BH total 520gr.43# @ 26", 2 holes 100 yrds.... for me its a no brainer.... Heavy BH....

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Re: How Much Weight Up Front
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2011, 08:33:00 PM »
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