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Author Topic: is 380 grains too light  (Read 776 times)

Offline joe vt

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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2007, 01:39:00 PM »
Vinnie, i'm not completely clear on what your drawing. is your draw length 26" ? and your bow is 50# @26" ?
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Offline VinnieB

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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2007, 02:00:00 PM »
yea my draw length is 26"s and my bow is 50#@26"s
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2007, 02:07:00 PM »
It sounds like you are shooting 7.6 grains per pound, witch may be a little hard on the bow.

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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2007, 02:14:00 PM »
Of course, shooting low arrow weight at a 26" draw won't be as hard on the bow as a low arrow weight at say a 29" or 30" draw. At a shorter draw you may be a little more concerned about KE and due to this you may want to bump up arrow weight some.

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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2007, 02:59:00 PM »
i agree that a 1916 shaft would probably be the best. you could probably get a 2016 to fly with some good weight up front.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2007, 03:10:00 PM »
You're on the cusp of a 1916/2016. If you want to add weight and use 2016s, cut them to 28" and get yourself some 125grn steel bh adaptors and glue on 160 STOS or other good broadhead to jump your weight up and lower the spine some on the 2016s. You'll be over 10grn a pound, have a quieter bow and no stress/penetration issues. It will all be on you to make the shot.
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Offline VinnieB

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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2007, 03:30:00 PM »
i had four  2016's laying around. they are 28"s and fly good with just a 125 grain head.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2007, 03:31:00 PM »
that brings my weight up to 450 grains
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2007, 08:29:00 PM »
Chad knows, 8gpp. is fine for whitetail out of 50# bows. I know guys who shoot around 7gpp. for most of the game they hunt. I would like a little heavier but they will do. Shawn
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2007, 10:17:00 PM »
the new arrows are about 9 grains per pound, but i still might stay with the light ones around 7.6 grains per inch. i just have a lot more confidence with the lighter arrows and to me i think shot placement woulld be more important than anything, but i'll see how it all works out.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2007, 10:22:00 PM »
Confidence is the key.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2007, 11:17:00 PM »
Vinnie, your last statement is exactly why i shoot light arrows. I shoot better and i am more consistent with them than iam with 10gpp. At the ranges i shoot, 8gpp gives me a great trajectory. I don't have to worry about execessive arrow drop nor do i have to worry about penetration.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2007, 11:28:00 PM »
chad i see you shoot fairly light arrows too what kind of penetration do you get when you shoot a deer(down to the label, the fletchings, etc) and about how much do you get when you hit bone like the shoulder. are you still able to cleanly kill the deer. thanks
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2007, 11:53:00 PM »
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That buck at the top of the page was killed with a 398gr arrow.
I can fletch your arrows and make them a little heavier.  :wavey:
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2007, 01:06:00 AM »
Vinnie, The buck at the top of the page was killed with exactly 7gpp. I hit the shoulder on entry and came out in the armpit. The arrow penetrated to the fletch and fell out the exit hole after a couple jumps. I shot a doe in the late season was standing broadside at 10-12 yards. The arrow went through both lungs and was sticking in the ground almost 15 yards on the other side of her.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2007, 01:11:00 AM »
thanks alot chad that deginetly makes me feel more confident with my 7.6 gpp set up. also just wondering what kind of arrow were you using and what broadhead.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2007, 01:12:00 AM »
I was using easton axis 500's with a 125gr snuffer.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2007, 01:14:00 AM »
thanks alot i really appreciate it.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2007, 01:15:00 AM »
No problem. I'm glad i could help.
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Re: is 380 grains too light
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2007, 01:33:00 AM »
No need to change a thing imo, hit the spot with that set-up and you will be gutting a deer in an hour. I've killed 4 deer in the last two years with a longbow at a draw weight of 53#@27 and total wood shaft arrow wt of around 425gr (two blade magnus or woodsman).
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