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Author Topic: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad  (Read 1864 times)

Offline sawtoothscream

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carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« on: March 04, 2011, 10:16:00 PM »
who has shot both and which do you like more???

i have GT trad right now and they are ok but my inserts dont want to stay in while stumping.

since im going to order more arrows soon i have been looking into the heritage safts.

are the CX ones tuff???  inserts stay in?

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Offline Spectre

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 10:19:00 PM »
I like GT's. I use Gorilla glue for the inserts.
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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 10:26:00 PM »
What ever your useing to glue your inserts in the GT isn't going to work any better in the Carbon Express. It's not the arrows.

Offline LoneWolf73

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 10:42:00 PM »
carbon express
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Offline MarkE2006

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2011, 10:44:00 PM »
Carbon Express
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Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2011, 10:46:00 PM »
I have shot both and the CEs hold up much better for me!! They seem to spine more consistent as well! Shawn
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Offline AdamH

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2011, 11:07:00 PM »
CX Heritage, without a Doubt ...

Offline Steelhead

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2011, 11:23:00 PM »
CX.

Offline Jason in Bama

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 11:47:00 PM »
CX hold up much better for me as well.
Try Goat Tuff glue on the inserts.  :thumbsup:
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Offline sbschindler

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2011, 12:14:00 AM »
the fit for inserts and nocks are much better with carbon express, I like to use hot melt and can not use it with the gold-tips account the inconsistency in the inside diameter, the carbon express heritage shafts are going to weigh in a bit heavier than the gold-tip traditionals, maybe 25 to 35 grains more. The gold tip traditional's are a very good arrow though but the carbon express seems to be just a bit better,

Offline highpoint forge

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2011, 12:38:00 AM »
I like the GTT color better than the CEH. That said I shoot them both from all my bows, and I shoot Easton Trad Onlys too. Never had a problem with inserts and I use hot melt in the fat stick from 3R. I also use brass inserts and my arrows are always high FOC. I don't rough up the inside or the arrow nor do I clean them.

So far the GTT arrows are killing more hogs for me.

That would be one arrow and one hog. I had some nice misses too with the CEHs on two bucks.
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Offline sawtoothscream

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2011, 12:41:00 AM »
i roughed the inside  a  little and tried hot melt. didnt work well

then i tried JB weld like some mentioned but still isnt holding well. but is working better then the hotmelt.  maybe it just thee cold thats screwing things up? o well

thanks for the responses. i might try the CX arrows out this time around.
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Offline slivrslingr

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2011, 02:37:00 AM »
Are you cleaning the inside of the shaft and the outside of the insert with rubbing alcohol?

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2011, 05:30:00 AM »
cleaning traditional only, GTT and CX with acetone first , never had a Problem ... i use all of them with a 2" long 22/16 external footing
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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2011, 05:32:00 AM »
CX Heritage is the best shaft I've used.
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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2011, 05:55:00 AM »
Gt 5575's have been my choice in carbons.     :wavey:
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Offline Rob W.

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 08:17:00 AM »
CE without a doubt.
This stuff ain't no rocket surgery science!

Offline J.Williams

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2011, 08:29:00 AM »
Have tried both and only use the CE now.

Offline Doug in MN

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2011, 08:46:00 AM »
I do like the CE shafts better as well. I have not however had a problem with inserts on either shaft.

I do clean them up with alcohol and use hot melt, the inserts stay put.

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Re: carbon express heritage vs gold tip trad
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2011, 08:58:00 AM »
The GT really has a slick inside finish.  I take a rat tail file to them and then clean with acetone.  I use hot melt and don’t have a problem unless I stick then into something like plywood.  Then the little shoulder on my brass inserts can get stuck so hard I pull the insert out trying to free the arrow.

Between the two I like the CE better.  It is a more consistent shaft and the toughest I have tried.  If I had to pay full price for both I would go with the CE, but I get the GT blems and those are hard to beat for the price.  

The CE gets me the weight I want and has a bit more spine in the 250 vs. the GT 5575.  With my bow weights and draw length I have a hard time getting the arrow weight up to where I want it with the GT5575.
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