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Jerry Bellmyer
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Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 11:56:00 AM »
To get my arrows a bit heavier I need to know what the inserts versu weighted tubes for arrow...performance the same as far as having a "tuned" arrow?
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CRS
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 12:14:00 PM »
I prefer brass inserts, they are epoxied in.
I have messed with all the usual suspects to increase carbon arrow weight. Have come to the conclusion it is better to add weight to the front than add extra accoutrements that do not serve any vital arrow component function, except to add weight.
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Jerry Bellmyer
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 12:51:00 PM »
I'm thinking screw in brass for goldtip arrows?
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Jerry Bellmyer
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Posts: 149
Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 01:08:00 PM »
will 175 grain be to heavy on the end of goldtip 5575? would actually like to go out to 200 grains
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 01:47:00 PM »
Just know that changing front end weight changes the dynamic spine of the arrow.More front end weight weakens it,less weight stiffens it.200 is not too much but you need to tune your setup and let it tell you how much weight up front you need.
Go to bowmaker.net and read and follow the tuning information.It is very good.
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sawtoothscream
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 02:45:00 PM »
i use both in my arrows. 100gr brass insert and a 3 gpp wieght tube. changing to a heavier end wieght willl weaken the dynamic spine of the arrow
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mahantango
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 03:32:00 PM »
I shoot some GT 55/75 with 275g. up front. Do whatever it takes to tune them, but I definately prefer brass inserts over wt. tubes.
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March 05, 2011, 03:41:00 PM »
I shoot GT 5575's with 50 grain brass insert and 200 grain broadheads/field points and they fly great out of several of my bows....Randy
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 04:10:00 PM »
I've used both and have better results with adding the weight to the front. I've tuned 3555's with 325 grains up front (however I do only draw 27"s and shoot 50ish pounds). 5575's are a stiff arrow so adding the weight to the front should work.
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CoilSpring
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 04:34:00 PM »
I use 100 grain brass inserts with 125gr BH in my GT 35/55's. 29" arrow, draw 28" on a fast 50#@28" Bob Lee recurve. What is your draw length & wt?
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Bob Morrison
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 05:11:00 PM »
Weight in the tube is a shock absorber.... On the point is a sledge hammer.
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LKH
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March 05, 2011, 05:32:00 PM »
I've done both and couldn't get rid of noise with the tubes. I also like the 100 extra up front. With my short draw length it's not much troube getting the arrows tuned.
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LH Keith
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March 05, 2011, 05:33:00 PM »
Tried tubes, didn't work for me. Brass Inserts/ tip wt. have my arrows flyin' much better!
Bowbldr's analogy is great.
Keith
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Jwilliam
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 05, 2011, 05:50:00 PM »
I agree with Bob Morrison
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sticbow
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March 05, 2011, 09:41:00 PM »
i shoot 29" 55-75 @ 58# with 300 up front shoot very well
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thunder1
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March 05, 2011, 10:18:00 PM »
I like the brass inserts. Had some problems with tubes blowing out the nocks from time to time.
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RUTANDSTRUT
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Re: Brass inserts versus tubes..
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March 07, 2011, 01:12:00 AM »
i think the brass inserts have a huge advantage over weight tubes. the higher foc will always shoot better (more forgiving) than the weight tube given you have the same weight arrow with the correct adjusted spine.
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trubltrubl
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March 07, 2011, 01:31:00 AM »
agree with RUTANDSTRUT ...FOC better as long as arrow tuned...since using these my penetration on game is fantastic....
if you like wood...woody weights are good.
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BWD
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March 07, 2011, 01:57:00 AM »
Say no to tubes. Weight up front is the way to go, even if you have to retune.
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March 07, 2011, 07:45:00 AM »
400 grains up front for a total wt of 608 grains is by far my best tuned and hardest hitting design in that wt range - to date.
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