i have held "deer camp(wn)"now for several years...in that time 3 p$y bucks have been taken,possibly a couple more and several very close...this is on public land with a lot of area to hunt...i do welcome anybuddy to the camp,would like to have some trads there...the problem it seems many dont want to do the required 1 day scout for the camp...or live in a tent for 9 days...also the fact 4 wheelers isnt allowed in the vicinity hurts too...but game carts are legal...its tuff terraine but reasonable shape can handle it...a guy can walk right from camp and hunt or drive miles away...if interested give a yell,a 170 was killed in our hunt area last year,i seen it twice...killed by a 1st time do it yourselfer from pa...