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Author Topic: Elevated shot placement on hogs  (Read 743 times)

Offline FerretWYO

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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2011, 04:43:00 PM »
Marty told me aim low and tight to the leg and you will kill them every time. Seemed if I did my part they did not go far at all.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2011, 05:06:00 PM »
I like short stands in heavy cover for pigs.  I'm talking 6-8 ft up is all.  That keeps the angle flater.  Shots very from real close to 15 yds or so.  I'm only shooting about 52# these days because of my neck surgery but maximize my penetration with heavy arrows and high foc.

I've killed a few of hogs over the years and have interveiwed a couple of guys that run pig hunting places.  There is one thing they all say.  The exit wound is most important and then use a big broadhead to get it.

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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2011, 05:14:00 PM »
I agree with the idea of getting an exit wound.  That's why I come back to what the actual distance is when you add in elevation.  A big hog gets bigger when you are shooting down and through instead of just through.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2011, 07:38:00 PM »
Not to disagree, but, if I scramble his heart and lungs, no exit wound needed. In fact, his running away with a razor blade gyrating about in his vitals is even more damaging. Whether the thoracic cavity is filled with blood or the ground is covered with it is the same in my book. Once the gas is gone, it's pretty much game over. Tracking may be more difficult though.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2011, 07:49:00 PM »
High Point...if I read your post correct....you have killed a total of two hogs correct?

Et all...pass throughs are always best...either through the vitals or guts....more damage all the way through...and chance of more blood.  Yes...if you scramble heart and lungs....no trail is needed in MOST cases...I agree.  In that case you don't HAVE to have a blood trail....BUT!

I'd MUCH rather have an exit wound whether vitals were hit or not.  Not all hunting areas are golf course open....blood and other internal sign needs to be on the ground or there abouts if all possible.

I have seen 1st hand a perfect shot and a hog lost....cept a 2nd party of hunters found the heart shot animal by happenstance....TBG Squirrel Hunt 2004 at The Paradise made by a perfect shot with a 2 blade that didn't pass through and was found by a pair of hunters that lucked up on the downed hog the same day saving the kill.

I have been on many a group hunt blood trails...be it numerous TX Sweats....numerous Solana Ranch hunts...more than one Ray's Hog Haven hunts....The Paradise (don't know how many).....other SC area hunts....FL group hunts...and I've seen my share of blood trails.  I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.  Not to mention the blood trails I've been on of friends.

Pass through shots FAR and AWAY yield more meat in the cooler.....by FAR from what I have experienced.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2011, 08:12:00 PM »
Here's a little sampling of stand shot hogs from a weekend hunt.  I too was told long ago that hogs shot from stand was a no no....I also learned that those that told me that never shot many hogs from a stand.

These were all killed at Marty's the same weekend...from 15 foot stands.....the 1st two were from 15 foot ladder stands with me standing.  Black boar was about 20 yards and the calico was about 15 and trotting, both double lunged and down in short order.  I shot 3 arrows at hogs that weekend....and all 3 were double lunged and down quickly.

       

This hog was shot also from a 15 foot ladder with me sitting....

     

ALL had exit wounds even though I heard them crash. The blood trail wasn't really nessessary.....but was nice since they went down it some really thick palmetto thickets and a swamp.  All 3 were killed with Wensel Woodsmens.

I went back to Marty's and killed my biggest boar to date from a 12 foot stand with me sitting...got one lung for sure and the heart...with a pass through...4 blade Zwickey No Mercy...  

     

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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2011, 08:13:00 PM »
I'd say that's a true statement on any animal, not just a hog. I'd whole lot rather have 2 holes leaving blood on the ground than just one.
Even if it's not a complete pass through and through where the arrow stays in the animal, but there's still 2 holes for the blood to exit.

I've never even had a chance to hunt hogs, but the more you all discuss it the worse I wanna go.

How do they get that shield anyway, by rubbing? Or does it just grow that way.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2011, 08:16:00 PM »
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How do they get that shield anyway, by rubbing?  
Genetics.....designed by God to protect the vitals from tusk during fighting over women.

 Funny...we didn't get the shield option aint it.   :biglaugh:
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2011, 08:18:00 PM »
Yeah, you got that right!  :knothead:  

I'll be dang, I always thought it was caused by rubbing up against trees, rocks, ect. Shows ya how little I know about hogs, too bad we don't have em around here where I live or they would be on the menu 24/7.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2011, 08:29:00 PM »
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Hogs are not the Abrams tanks everyone makes them out to be,
I agree to a point....but having shot a few.....been on trails shot by many and taking notes....I have a different view....and listening to some on a web site doesn't erase the fact that a 45# whitetail set up can give a hunter FITS on large boar hogs.....large shielded boars aren't 'push overs' like whitetails.

Mix in a lightweight bow....the wrong head, not properly sharpened head...not so great arrow flight...a large boar flinching at impact(which they often do)...mud clinging to hair...any two of the above together and your impact may represent that of a tank.

I don't want anyone psyched out either...but I want them to be prepared.          :campfire:
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2011, 08:40:00 PM »
Add a little adrenaline, and they can turn into a tank with a spare engine.

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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2011, 08:41:00 PM »
sir, i am prepared, sir - lemme at 'em!  :)

terry ain't steered me wrong yet, and it's with his knowledge and patience that i got my hogs.

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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2011, 08:43:00 PM »
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Add a little adrenaline, and they can turn into a tank with a spare engine.
That brings me to another thought....

If you shoot a hog in a group...and its not the best shot in the world.....best hope he separates himself from the group...otherwise...you better hope you have two holes....and even better if its a multi blade two holes.  If they run off with 'the bunch'...they will carry him a long way.  Much longer than if he goes solo.  

Again...just another note I've gathered along the way.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2011, 08:46:00 PM »
Terry, I plan on going on my first hog hunt in a few months. I will be shooting a #55 Tomahawk, from the ground. At #55 2 blade or 3 blade?
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2011, 08:50:00 PM »
forgot to add I going to try to shoot a smaller hog 75-120lb for good eating.
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2011, 08:54:00 PM »
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Terry, I plan on going on my first hog hunt in a few months. I will be shooting a #55 Tomahawk, from the ground. At #55 2 blade or 3 blade?
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2011, 08:54:00 PM »
no nothing....what is your draw length?
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2011, 08:59:00 PM »
Rob...yep....settin on ready....can't wait to hunt with you and Doug Campbell in less than a month...

Hey...where are YOUR tree stand kill pics?
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2011, 09:00:00 PM »
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Re: Elevated shot placement on hogs
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2011, 09:01:00 PM »
If you can get a Wensel Woodsman sharp....run with it.....if you can't...send it to me...and I'll get it ready for ya.
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