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Author Topic: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!  (Read 1438 times)

Offline IronJohn

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2007, 12:31:00 PM »
Have you looked at Fedora's Xtreme 3-ptd hybrid. Very smooth and forgiving and I believe one of the quickest bows made. Mike Fedora will make you anything you want as far as grip shape, materials, wood ect.
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2007, 01:18:00 PM »
hey Waterone...that is a very cool opening video indeed   :help:
Man I'd feel like a child that enters a toys'r'us for the first time. Should defenately put a limit on my credit card before I go   :)  
   
Suttoman, I Hope you find that one bow!
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Offline Ga.boy

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2007, 01:39:00 PM »
From what I understand, due to old injuries he uses a thumb tab that  wraps around the string and is pinched between his thumb and forefinger.
I got this information from a reliable source on another site. I also found out that he holds the record for the most RobinHoods in 24 hours, 347!
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Offline R H Clark

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2007, 03:36:00 PM »
Get on the list for an A&H bow.You won't be satisfied untill you get one because you will always wonder if it is better.

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2007, 05:09:00 PM »
Hey thanks so much guys - I am really enjoying this - and so informative.  Thanks too - no vitriolic comments - I didn't want this to denigrate into a slinging match - it is nice to just discuss the pros and cons - well done.

I have just crawled out of bed - it is very early in Aussie.  I will read these again and make some comments.  

R H Clark - could you please give me the website address for A&H - I tried to find with a search but nothing doing.

Thanks Robtattoo for understanding.  Unless you live in another country and have to pay a fortune for every bow before one can shoot it - it is hard to explain what that is like.  Very expensive and frustrating.  Please let me know what you think of the Horne's and more importantly - Mark's customer service!!??

However I think the 'Pofesser' amongst us all is James Wrenn - I think unless we are satisfied - within reason - the search would go on forever and we would never find that perfect bow.  Well said James!!

Sutto
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Offline LBR

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2007, 05:35:00 PM »
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I am sorry but there is no bow you can put a tag on as the best.  
James nailed it.  The bow that is "best" for one person may be quite dissapointing for someone else.  I used to chase around and try to shoot all the "best" bows I read about (in magazines, on message boards, etc.--it changed on a regular basis).  A few of them were great shooters to me, most were very dissapointing.  Not that they were bad bows (not all of them anyway), but after all the hype you'd expect something almost supernatural.

A fellow that is famous for his part in the archery industry once told me "among the better bows, there's not a nickles worth of difference where it counts".  That's not an exact quote, but close--and I agree.  Some grips may feel better, some may be a little faster, some may be quieter, but when you get right down to it the same thing I've said for years still applies--there ain't no magic bow.

Another thing to consider--if there was one bow that was head and shoulders above all the rest, then that bow would be the only one selling and/or everyone else would be copying it, else they would be out of business.  Not to mention all the top archers would be shooting that same bow.

Finally, take an archer that knows what he is doing and give him a selfbow scratched out with a rock and a boar's tooth, and he'll outshoot the novice with the latest whiz-bang $10,000 "wonder stick".  Forgiveness is in design, but accuracy is in the shooter.

In other words Sutto, I think you are making it a lot harder than it really is!    :knothead:   Get a bow that fits and feels good in your hand, tune it, and practice--you will do just fine.

Chad

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2007, 05:39:00 PM »
Thanks Chad - Well said and some very mature intelligent thinking in there!

Perhaps I'll wait until I get my Horne's fixed up.  Other than the grip - out of all of my bows that is the one I like the best.  Perhaps with the grip it will become my go-to-bow!

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2007, 06:13:00 PM »
Here is the website...it is in the Sponsor list up top so I hope it is OK to post the link here also.  Good luck.  As for Mark and Sandy Horne's customer service, I have NEVER heard a negative comment.  That said, I haven't dealt with them but based on their reputation, I would not hesitate at all.

 http://www.acsbows.com/index.html

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2007, 09:19:00 PM »
Have ya ever shot a JD Berry?
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2007, 10:51:00 PM »
No 'Kingstaken' - I have never shot a JD Berry before.  90% of all archery in Auss are compounds - you see very few trad bows around.  If I don't own it then I aint shot it!!

Why - what are they like?

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2007, 10:59:00 PM »
Suttoman........Sherrinsky Challenger T/D 68" Longbow 95'-97'.. Only 6 were made...AMO ( 540gr@30"@60#)..215-220fps.........I own one and shot competitively with it in mid 90's...black glass/carbon/maple cores..He was way ahead of his times..if you can find one...it is the finest
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2007, 11:52:00 PM »
You know, it's funny.
My favorite bow today will be put aside, next week for another favorite.

I like to keep several. One week it'll be be a fast, high performer, and next I'll take out and old style longbow and have a blast!

Have fun and keep as many as you can afford.
And if you buy used you won't loose too much.
If something comes up, they are as good as money in the bank; with the outlets we have for selling online.
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2007, 12:00:00 AM »
Suttoman While having no experience with Hornes I have shot acs's and A&H as well as the Black swan and I do think the ACS and the A&H is one of the best bows out there the reason I don't have one is the year and a half wait. The black swan is another excellent choice but it like almost all the others is a flat limbed bow but the limbs are very thin and narrow another bow that has thin and narrow limbs and achieves excellent speed is the Cari-bow Silver Fox or Perigrine ( the Siver Fox is a 3pc the perigrine is one or two pc) but like all these bows they are expensive and you may find a little different to shoot at first because the wieght starts early in the draw but they are all smooth and fast. My Silver Fox gets 189fps with a 450gr wood arrow at 49# and thats plenty fast  for me. Also ther is a Cari-bow Perigrine in the classifieds right now so may be used might be a way to save yourself some money Delin
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2007, 07:04:00 AM »
Suttoman,

I am no expert by anymeans, but I have a Cari-Bow Silver Fox and a Crow Creek Blackfeather that are two of my favoites. Both are smooth and fast. I would be hard pressed to pick one over the other. I do not know if they offer different wrist designs so can not help you there.

My brother has an O.L. bow and I have shot it and fell in love, But as said before almost impossible to find. I own 7 bows now and will probably never stop trying new ones.LOL that is the fun of it, and that can get expensive. Luckily I have a forgiving wife.  :bigsmyl:  

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2007, 04:08:00 PM »
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you are out of luck with this question.  Off hand, thinking of 10 guys that I shoot with including myself, (some of us shoot longbows and some of us recurves) we all have one thing in common.  Each of us will argue with the others that our bow is the "best", and none of us shoot the same bow.  We are shooting a DAS, Hoyt(winn limbs), ACS-CX, Osage self bow, Hill, Predator, Turkey Creek, Black Widow, Navaho, & Hoyt Gamemaster II.  We all have different ideas of what is "best".

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2007, 04:12:00 PM »
Like stated above I'm no expert either, I've tried many different bows and like most of them but IMHO if you stick to one bow or one style of bow you can become a better shooter with it. Right now the best longbow for me is the Howard Hill........stabow
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2007, 04:30:00 PM »
You know ... 99.9% of folks are shooting that "inefficient" limb design.

Sounds like you really want an A&H / Adcock bow, so pony up the bucks and get on the list.  Don't be surprised however, if you get a case of "buyers remorse".  Not because they aren't good bows (I assume they are, I've never shot one), but because it probably won't turn you into Robin Hood, Howard Hill or Byron Ferguson.

Anything over 175fps set to hunt looks plenty fast to me.  The trick is to find something that suits you and your hunting/shooting style and give it a chance.

But ... the grass is always greener.  And frankly I love picking up good deals from folks perpetually searching for a "magic" bow.

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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2007, 05:00:00 PM »
Horne's Archery makes some really nice longbows. I don't think you can go wrong with the Traditionalist or Brushbow.
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2007, 05:09:00 PM »
I didn't read every single post so this has probably been said...

Whats "best" for me may well not be "best" for you or the next guy.Is there any chance you could try some of these first??I know that your not from here it's just a thought.

I went to Denton hill with no $$ so I wouldn,t buy the first thing that tickled my fancy.I really liked the Horne's combo hunter and thought it was gonna be the one untill I shot a hummingbird.Even went back and got the Horne's bow and the hummingbird so I could shoot them side by side.Again thats me it may be differnt for you.

I also really like the Dakota by Bob Morrison,Centuar is an awesome bow too at least I liked it.Shrew bows are excellent, the grip may be closer to what ya want but it's still a LB type grip,maybe not straight like the Hill style but not a recurve grip either which sounds like what your lookin for.

Good luck I hope ya find the one your lookin for and enjoy the process while your at it
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Re: Come on lads - lets find the best longbow once and for all%^&$*!!
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2007, 02:38:00 PM »
The best longbow or anybow that an individual owns, is the one that shoots the best for him/her emphasis on the individual.

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