Easton Axis... Where do I start?

[ThePushArchery]

Looking to buy some easton axis arrows, but being an aluminum / cedar guy for the longest time, I'm not sure where to begin.

I'm looking to shoot a 220 grain broadhead, with the 75 grain HIT inserts installed. That puts me around 295 grains up front.

I draw 28.5", and my bows are pulling 49 to 52 lbs. Which size should I try? 300, 340, 400, or 500? My final arrow weight, I'm looking to be around 600 grains.

Also, for those of you who shoot these shafts, how do you deal with the interface between your field tips and shaft? With the shaft being a smaller diameter, do you use the adaptor collars, or are there undersized field tips I can buy?

Thanks guys!

[LoweBow]

I'd dare to guess your looking in the 400 range.  I shoote a longer 400 shaft w/ less up front 4-4" feathers out of a few of my bows and love them!  I buy the 11/32" field points intead of the 5/16" and they are just as thin as the shafts ...so no problems!
Mike

[FerretWYO]

Originally posted by LoweBow:
I'd dare to guess your looking in the 400 range.  I shoote a longer 400 shaft w/ less up front 4-4" feathers out of a few of my bows and love them!  I buy the 11/32" field points intead of the 5/16" and they are just as thin as the shafts ...so no problems!
Mike

What Mike said

[PSUBowhunter]

I think 400s should be close. You should look into footing the axis arrows with a piece of an alluminum arrow....just do a search on here and you will find what you need.

[Bowmania]

I'm shooting 50 at 29 with 285 up front and a 0.500 spined shaft.  I'd check Stu's Calculator before I bought any thing though.  Last year towards the end of the season with a lot of clothes on I got a 0.600 to fly with the same 285.  That 285 is a 160 Snuffer with a 125 adaptor. That .600 shot bullet holes through paper from 12 feet to 20+ yds.  Can't figure that one out???

Bowmania

[grouseshooter002]

With that kind of weight up front a Camo Axis in the 340 size should be perfect if cut to about 29.5". As far as point size the 340 uses a 9/32" RPS point. Hope this helps.

[Crash]

I would guess the 400's as well.  3 Rivers sells field points that are close in size to the shaft so they are easier to pull from targets.  I don't know if you will find one that is 220 grains though.

[Bowmania]

Grouseshooter  Does that Camo Axis 340 mean a deflection of 0.340?  If so what would he be shooting if his poundage was over 60 lbs?

Bowmania

[medicineman]

I'm guessing. 500's -- I find these shafts to be on the stiff side

[JJB2]

You're kinda right in the middle there it seems between the 340 and 400.  You could probably shoot a long 340 with that weight up front or a little shorter 400.  If you shoot a longer 340 though you'll be in the 650+ grn range.  If you want to stick around 600 grn I'd go with a 400 cut to 29".  

I'm planning on shooting the 340 fmj's with 50 grn brass insert, 200 grn head and a easton collar for additional footing, 28.75 - 29" arrow.  I'll be shooting a new zipper sxt, ~55# at my draw of 28.25".  If they're a little too stiff I'll add another 25 grn in insert weight.  

With a 50 grn insert I finish out at 625 grn with ~19% FOC.  Should be good medicine for the elk and deer I'll be chasing come fall.

Maybe buy the test kit from 3rivers before you buy a full dozen.  Put them together the way you want them before gluing in any inserts and test the weight on a good digital scale.  They come in higher than stu's calc.  The calc says my finished arrow cut to 28.75 should weight 604 grns.  It weighs out at 625 on the nose.  600-625 is my target weight.

[Shinken]

Ditto on 400s - start with full length.....

The 500s will be weak for your set up.

Shoot straight, Shinken

[RUSTY1]

3 Rivers has a test kit for the FMJ's. I recently got one that had a 340, 400, and 500. It was like $29.00.

[grouseshooter002]

Bowmania,
        If he were shooting 60# or so he would have to go with a 300 spine. You asked about the deflection of a 340 and it is .342 on the chart. Please remember what weight he wants to shoot on the front end of his arrows. That amount of weight will make a 400 or 500 preform like a whip. He would have to cut his arrows so short that he wouldn't be able to use them. He left out a lot of useful info. so this is only my guesstament.

Grouse

[SS Snuffer]

400's full length, install the inserts with hotmelt and cut down 1/4" at a time untill they tune use 17/64 dia. feild points if you want to foot them use 1916 alum arrow
I got the 1st batch of Axis arrow ever made and have used them ever since.

[JJB2]

I used stu's calc.  29" arrow, 75 grn insert (entered in the footing column as stu indicates to do on these HIT inserts, footing length of 1"), 220 grn head, 20 grn on nock end, 3 5" feathers.  Says that 340 would spine out at 65.5 and his Bob Lee TD, 53# @28" would need a 75# spine, assuming the .060 strike plate thickness.  I left the personal form factor at zero.

It does seem like these arrows do spine out a little heavier than they're rating though.  I'm thinking maybe the 340, 29" arrow and 50 grn insert instead of 75 might be a better bet.

[ThePushArchery]

Thanks for all the great info guys.

I am starting to re-consider my tip weight. I'm thinking a 125 tip, with the 75 grain brass insert.

Would that change a whole lot?

So it looks like 340 or 400 most likely then? The 500 seems like they'd be too weak for what i'm trying to acheive.

[Hooked]

I haven't read all the posts, so I apologize if I am repeating anything someone else has already said.

I shoot a 61# @ 28" hybrid (long bow limbs, recurve grip). I shoot 340's cut to about 29.5" with 200 grain points and 100 grain brass HIT inserts.

In my opinion, 340's would be way stiff for your set up.  See if you can get a couple 400's to test.  Start at full length, then cut off a little at a time from the nock end until they are right.  Only problem is the 400's might still be to stiff, that's why I recommend trying out a few before buying a dozen.

[JJB2]

download stu's calc and play around with it.  If you peeled that much of the tip weight, the 400 will be your bet.

[JohnV]

With a 125 grain tip and 75 grain insert you should be okay with the 400.  If you want a lot more weight up front you need to go to the 340.  I've been doing a lot of bare shaft testing with my 54 and 57# ACS longbows using 400, 340, and 300 shafts with tips ranging from 175-300 grains and with/without heavier brass inserts.

[beachbowhunter]

Originally posted by medicineman:
I'm guessing. 500's -- I find these shafts to be on the stiff side

Me too.