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Author Topic: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters  (Read 552 times)

Offline D Sheffey

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Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« on: April 08, 2011, 08:19:00 AM »
Do you have to wear an arm guard?  I don't think I've ever seen a pic of someone shooting a Hill style longbow that didn't have on an arm guard.

I assume it's the low brace puts the string into your wrist but thought I would ask.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 08:33:00 AM »
I shoot Dan toelke "Super D" Hill style bows and I do not wear an arm guard. There is a certain magic and awareness of tradition when shooting the Hill styles and I get that, mine have never seen anything but wooden arrows and meybe I should be wearing an arm guard too.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 08:49:00 AM »
Can shoot w/o armguard unless shooting a lot. String Rash...Once is enough.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 09:32:00 AM »
I always wear an armguard no matter what bow I'm shooting. I do think my Hill is more likely to hit me though.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 10:02:00 AM »
A bow string has never slapped my arm! Just never had that problem, lucky i guess.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 10:04:00 AM »
I haven't worn an armguard aside from hunting in extreme cold and I had to because of bulky sleeves.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 10:07:00 AM »
I can shoot mine without one, but ya need to pay attention....
    Get a little sloppy with your grip and you get it, Like said above, once is enough....
    The Armguard is also great for keeping the sleeve out of the way....
    And of course they look "Cool"....
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 10:33:00 AM »
I only use one with a coat on. Don't need one otherwise.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 10:45:00 AM »
Hill style form generally involves a slightly bent elbow.   How much depends on the individual and the grip on the bow.  Some folks can get away with no guard, others can't.   Even those who can can get zapped if they're careless.   Not to be a wimp or anything, but it hurts!   So why not wear a guard?  They look cool and give you a chance to show off some personal craftsmanship.  

Besides, admit it, we're still kids playing mind games and taking ourselves back in time.   Robin Hood (Errol Flynn) wore a guard... Howard wore a guard (even had one built into the sleeve of his buckskin shirt!).   Heck, a trad longbow archer (real longbow, that is) without a guard would be like Roy Rogers with his six gun stuck in his waistband instead of in a tooled leather holster!
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 10:54:00 AM »
I dont use one uless I got bulky sleeves on.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 11:11:00 AM »
Hill said that with a low brace height longbow the string is suppose to hit the arm guard, according to Schulz.  This changes when using a higher braced bow with a fast flight string.  With one of my bows, it is tiller-ed to shoot best with a low brace using a B50 string, but with a fast flight it likes the brace about a half inch more and the arm contact is much reduced.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 11:28:00 AM »
I have always used an arm guard. One built of tough leather. Should an arrow break, on it's way out; the guard will protect you from injury.
Somehow, I never, ever hit my arm with the string when shooting. Even with a 6" brace height on my Hill Big 5 or Miller longbow.
I use a guard strictly for safety.
    ....what Pavan said,   that according to HH; " with a low brace height longbow the string is suppose to hit the arm guard" I was told similar by David Miller. He mentioned Hill had said the string should be hitting from time to time, if everything is being done correctly.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 12:05:00 PM »
they do have a "COOL" factor , no doubt about that.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 12:34:00 PM »
I never hit my arm but I always shoot with an armguard,just habit and in case it would happen.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 12:38:00 PM »
I shoot longbows and recurves, never use arm guards, open stance and canting make it unnecessary I guess.

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2011, 01:35:00 PM »
Usually don't need it. Use it in winter to hold back the bulky clothes. But, I like how Dick put it.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2011, 01:36:00 PM »
My 68" Westley Special is tuned for light arrows so the brace is a bit on the high side. it's never bit me yet.  My 66"Long Bowman's Classic is tuned for heavy arrows so the brace is on the lower side.  It bites a bit, almost every shot.  Regardless of which one I'm shooting, I wear a stout custom arm guard because of occasional sleeve interference.  It only took one bad shot caused by a sleeve to make a believer out of me. Alex
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Offline D Sheffey

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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2011, 01:41:00 PM »
The reason I asked is simply that I HATE WEARING ARM GUARDS but I want a HH longbow.  I think I"m going to sell the BW recurve and get me a HH now that I think I wouldn't have to have an arm guard.

Thanks to all that answered.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2011, 01:47:00 PM »
Yep, I need one or else I get a nice little red welt mark on the forearm.  Don't need 'em with recurves.
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Re: Question for you Hill style longbow shooters
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2011, 01:50:00 PM »
I didn't need an armguard for my recurves, but I definitely need one for my Hills....

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