Hit 'em like HH & knocking point???

[seven crows]

If like me you cannot find a copy of John Schulz's hit 'em like howard hill . I found it posted in 4 parts on facebook  today. I did not realize that HH and John Schulz both place arrow "ABOVE" knocking point on the string. I have always knocked under and never even considered the reverse. But watching it definitely makes sense.
Who else does this? , any thoughts or comparisons? I am going to try it and see.7C

[tradlongbow]

I've been placing the arrow above the nock for almost 20 years. I got the idea when I saw Schulz doing it in his video. I also grab my arrow from the nock as Schulz teaches.

Darren

[Ben Maher]

I shoot my Hills pretty much as per John Shculz in "Hittin 'em like Howard Hill "...swing draw etc , even trying to always have my arrows cut "net" ... all works just dandy for me
The only thing I do differently is nock under the locater ... tried that way but sometimes my arrow flight suffered and i just find nocking easier nocking my arrows under .

[GregD]

I think that nocking above is only an advantage while using the back quiver and trying to get a second arrow from the quiver to the string faster.

[Ric O'Shay]

I tried placing the arrow above the nock. Didn't work for me. I don't like my nocks very tight on the string, so the forward weight on the arrow tended to lift the nock end up away from the nocking point. With the arrow below, it holds against the nocking point. This works pretty good for me, specially in a ladder stand.

[straitera]

Tried (brass) nock under once & shot great for a short while. Maybe heavy middle finger under started pushing the arrow upwards caused my shoot & tuning wreck afterwards. Tie-ons above only since.

[newell38]

I have the brass under the arrow nock as well...used to shoot the opposite..whatever works for you.

[Charlie Lamb]

I've been shooting with my nocking point below the arrow nock for 50 odd years without problem.

I really don't see an advantage of one over the other except that it might be possible to pressure the nocked arrow a little low with the nocking point above the arrow.

You are much more apt to experience poor arrow flight if your arrow nock is low than if it is a little high.

Hill's whole style was developed around fast delivery of his shots. We seldom have a need to get a second arrow to the string "that" fast these days.

Do what you like.

[Orion]

Well said, Charlie.  About the only advantage to nocking over is it keeps the arrow nock from slipping up the string and the arrow from falling off the bow if one leaves an arrow nocked and the bow hung while on stand.

[Mudd]

I agree with Charlie on this one.

This is one case where I believe I won't "fix-it". It ain't broke!...lol

I can load my arrow without looking by trapping the string low and bringing my arrow up to the nocking point.

My opinion... because it works for me.

God bless,Mudd

[Flingblade]

I use a nocking point above and below.  Some time ago there was a thread here that had a link to a slow motion video showing how much the arrow moved on the string at release with one nock above the arrow.  Probably happens with nock below as well.

[seven crows]

On this same point, is there a general height placement of the knock in relation to the shelf that most people go by?? With my knocking square I go 1/4" to 3/8" higher then the shelf.
 Should we basically strive to get the arrow placement as horizontal as possible between shelf and string or are there other factors?? Thanks.7Crows

[Jesse_83]

I'm going to try nocking above the nock point on my new hill.  If you switch from nocking under to nocking over you'll notice that the arrow tends to slide up because you're not used to having no resistance above the arrow nock.  For this reason you have to keep a small amount of pressure downwards on the arrow nock.  I have a feeling this might promote a low elbow on the drawing arm, and a straight line from point to elbow.

[David Mitchell]

I like to nock my arrow and hang it on a little hook or limb stub when I hunt--nocking above will cause the arrow to slide up the string every time--so one has to go above too and you've totally lost the entire idea.

[Lee Robinson .]

I can nock a 2nd arrow just as quick shooting nock under as I can shooting nock over and I can do both without looking. I shot both ways...years one way, and then the other. IMO, the ONLY difference is with nock over the weight of the tip can lift the nock...while nock under prevents that.

[Swamp Yankee]

I use tie on nocking points above and below; lighter than a brass nock and they leave no room for error.

on B50 strings I only nock above, If I am sliding the arrow up the string when shooting, it will not matter if there is a nocking point to stop it, I am doing something horribly wrong that is going to make bad arrow flight.  On skinny strings with harder serving materials, I put one below and a tiny floss bead above for hunting.  there are times when it is nice to hang the bow in a ready position and not have the arrow fall off of those skinny strings.

[3Under]

Either way can work great for split finger shooters, but 3 under shooters can't nock over!

[stiknstringer]

I've benn nocking on top for twenty odd years also.I've killed many rabbits on the second shot but I think you can also shoot as fast nocking under.It's just a matter of what you get used to IMO.  

[Knawbone]

I'v done it both ways,doesn't seem to matter to much to me. works ether way