Riser crack, how serious? **Pic**

[easyup]

How serious is this riser crack?  Perfectly straight and vertical and 4" long on one side and 6" on the other side, exactly opposite like it is a joint failure in the micarta.  Can feel with thumb nail on one side only.  I had a similar appearing crack in Macassar ebony along the grain line and the bowyer super glued it and then refinished.  Would never have thought a riser would crack in the synthetic material.
Thanks for you input, it's appreciated.
 

[PEARL DRUMS]

They all need to be fixed in my eyes. Your riser has the most stress of any part of your bow. I would have that fixed. Is that a glue line or a full blown crack?

[Orion]

It's not a riser crack.  That's slightly lifted finish on the glue line between two pieces of fiberglass. Not sure exactly what causes it. Finish not sticking to the underying epoxy line.  Differential expansion and contraction of the fiberglass pieces. Don't know.  Regardless, isn't a problem.  I have a couple of ACSs that have done the same thing. Can steel wool the lifted finish to remove most of the raised finish.  The folks at ACS offered to refinish my risers, but I haven't taken them up on the offer yet.  Not enough to worry about IMO.

[Pat B.]

I have one with the same glue line showing.. I didn't consider it a problem and haven't asked about it..

[PEARL DRUMS]

Myabe it isnt an issue safety or integrity wise. If I get charged $1200-1500 for a bow it better not have glue lines like that......ever. Just my 2.3241 cents.

[Froggy]

I agree with Pearl drums. Out of all the lower end priced bows I have had, none have had glue lines showing like that.... I would expect it to be repaired and shipping covered both ways if I had ordered it new and paid the dimes they charge for them, with that said I would bet that's what the folks at A&H will do... Just imo.

Froggy

[YORNOC]

I got "scolded" by a couple of top notch bowyers last time I spoke up on a situation like this, but my answer is the same.
 If you paid for a new bow, and it has imperfections that show up, the bowyer should cover it including shipping. Shouldn't even be a question about it. You didn't get a price break on a bow with glue lines did you?  Its obviously a very nice bow, hope all works out.

[David Mitchell]

I would not find that acceptable at all.  I would want it fixed.

[Pat B.]

The one I have with the lines was used when I got it.. I'm sure they would refinish it but I shoot that bow every single day.. Not about to let it out of my sight, lol..

[kawika b]

Same bow as the one in this thread?

[YORNOC]

Pat, thats my problem too. Easy for me to say it should be fixed, but I wouldnt want to part with it either.

[easyup]

kawika,
No, that thread was the same thing along a grain line in ebony and was a bow from another very famous bowyer who did a nice repair for just about return shipping cost.  I guess I am not too lucky with glue.

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Pat & YORNOC,
 I ask because I really don't want to risk problems in shipping, etc.

[kawika b]

Damn Kenneth... maybe you should've been a self bow guy, lol.   :D

[LongStick64]

I'd be shocked if the bowyer would not want to refinish the riser for you for only the cost of return shipping. Most of my dealings with bowyers have been this case, only one got a little cranky with me and wanted to charge me 150.00 for it.

[Plumber]

is that the nature of that type of riser  material? or is it in the glue used?

[Whip]

How old is the riser?  Are you the original owner?  
As bows age with changes in temperature, humidity, etc. that is not uncommon to see where they develop a line like that at a glue line.  If it is an older bow I don't know how you could blame it on the bowyer.  If it's newer I'm betting they would be happy to take care of it, but either way, it would be best to talk with them first.

[easyup]

It's an '09 and I am sure they will fix it under warranty.  I think I will have it done as I just can't get my head around it being only a finish issue and not a problem in the underlying material.  I am positive they get the best materials they can get their hands on, natural and man made, and also know even the best material manufacturer can have problems from time to time.

[see]

i don't think I would want to pay lots for a bow with lines in it whether it was cracked or not.If it can be repaired don't you think it would be wise for the resale would be much better later on if by chance you wanted to part with it then?

[Shawn Leonard]

Whip, sorry but I have to agree, even if the bow is older it should not happen and the bowyer should step up and fix it. Their are many bows out there that are 40 and 50 years old and they do not develope glue lines like that and you are saying with modern materials we should except that, even due to some weathering and moisture, nope I disagree!! I believe a bowyer should stand behind their work and if due to material or workmanship it should be repaired. You may have to draw the line somewhere but a bow that is even 5 or 6 years old should not do that. As Chad said when your reputation depends on the sale of bows I would hope as a bowyer they would make it right, if it happens enough and the bowyer don't fix it, word will get out and they won't be in business for long! Shawn

[Whip]

Most bowyers might stand behind it regardless just to keep from the bad PR that could result.  But I can tell you that I have seen very similar lines on many, if not most, of the high dollar bows out there.  I won't name names, because I don't think that is fair to the bowyers.  
But it happens, and I don't think there is necessarily a thing that the bowyer did wrong that would cause it to happen.  The only material that I am aware of that should never have that happen is metal.